(March 20, 2015 at 7:32 pm)Delicate Wrote:(March 20, 2015 at 10:23 am)c172 Wrote: Sorry to, like, get back on topic 'n stuff, but I am a huge fan of the late Carl Sagan, and of Sam Harris, and NDT. Sarah Vowell is a favorite author, who just happens to be atheist. I like Christina Rad's YouTubes, but sometimes her accent is a bit thick to understand.
Also, there was another YouTuber, a somewhat angsty young female British Columbian, that I liked, but she wasn't always atheism. She delved into feminism and other things. But I never recorded her account name, and she may have left YouTube.
I liked Carl Sagan.
But he wasn't an atheist. He was agnostic.
Sagan was simply a smart guy. Neil Degrasse Tyson also does not like calling himself "atheist'. If Sagan didn't like saying "I am an atheist" because of his rightful admission he didn't know the future, he made a mistake.
You can hold positions of the past and present while "technically" admitting you don't know the future.
I would bet my life, RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT, that all past and present claims of god/s are man made. I am only "technically" "agnostic" about the future.
I think Tyson avoids using "off" which is all the word "atheist" means because of the stigma others attach to it. But neither Sagan or Neil believe in a personal god, much less the gods of those violent books.
You can reject past claims, you can reject current claims, and still while being sure about the future being highly unlikely while "technically" admitting you don't "technically" know.