RE: Sins
March 22, 2015 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2015 at 11:19 am by Drich.)
How did I miss this Jem?
In the examples I gave I proove that it is never ok to mix an infected person with a general population that isnot protected from your disease. But at the same time I provided you with an example from real life that would allow for someone with a given disease to intermingle with a general population. In that the general population must all be inoculated from that disease.
That said if you wish to "speak the bible to me" the as I have proved book chapter and verse as I have, and don't ask me to place faith in a miso theist interpretation of the bible.
This may work with your buddies, but here I am trying to raise the bar of biblical understanding.
I will try and keep up
But I guess that's the point of building straw men.
Good thing I'm not trying to 'hold water.'
Once one repents what rights or rituals do you think you need?
I'll give it a crack if you give me the post number
(March 20, 2015 at 5:08 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: I have bolded and made the text red to show emphasis.Actually one can. The two examples are indeed valid examples of that practice in everyday life.
First of all, I call bullshit. You have contradicted yourself (see the writing in red) You cannot say in one sentence that you can't mix, even a little bit and then turn around and say in another sentence that you can. It makes for a weakly constructed argument.
In the examples I gave I proove that it is never ok to mix an infected person with a general population that isnot protected from your disease. But at the same time I provided you with an example from real life that would allow for someone with a given disease to intermingle with a general population. In that the general population must all be inoculated from that disease.
Quote:Second of all, you are comparing sin to both an imaginary "Zombie virus" and chicken pox. There are a few flaws with your arguments:Where does we are born with this affliction? In Romans 7:8-12 tells us specifically when and where this affliction takes us. This was not from birth, this was at the moment we received/understood the law.
1. According to the bible*, we are born sick or unclean, or with sin or however you want to phrase it. *This is of course if you believe in sin and if you believe in the bible. But because I'm speaking to you, then it applies, because you believe.
If this is factually correct, then it would be impossible for you to compare it to your second flawed statement.
That said if you wish to "speak the bible to me" the as I have proved book chapter and verse as I have, and don't ask me to place faith in a miso theist interpretation of the bible.
This may work with your buddies, but here I am trying to raise the bar of biblical understanding.
Quote:The second flawed statement: You infer from your statement above that there is the "possibility" that a person may not have ever had the chicken pox.One does not have to know of the chicken pox to be subject to it.
Quote:If this is true, then you cannot compare having the chicken pox to being born with sin because 100% of the people would have sin, while an indeterminate percentage of people would have chicken pox. That number can't be 100% simply because of the prior assertion that not everyone has ever had it.Well, what if what you said is not true? It would stand to reason because your objection is not true the point stands..
Quote:Still with me? Great!
I will try and keep up
Quote:Third, there is no proof of the existence of any Zombie virus, so it would be extremely safe to say that you cannot compare it to sin either since 0% of the population would have this zombie virus (that is non-existent), whereas again, according to the bible, 100% of the population is born with sin.I noticed you only spoke to 1/3 of the actual arguement. Are the chicken pox real? Does society have quarantine measures in place? Are inoculations real? Do the keep us safe from the effects of a virus?
But I guess that's the point of building straw men.
Quote:Based upon the above information, it is impossible to say with any degree of certainty that your theory holds any sort of water.
Good thing I'm not trying to 'hold water.'
(March 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Sin is awesome because it's an ever present condition that creates a need. That need is constant attempts at atonement through rites, rituals, sermons, confessions, etc. And the really great thing about it is that just when a person thinks they may be on the path of atonement, some new sin pops up. It could be something the person did or even thought. So the person is told to double down. Pray harder. Read the bible more. Become more active in the church. All the while, they're slowly harming themselves by becoming ever more dependent on the religion to filter their thoughts and behavior. It's amazing.
Religion - cigarettes for the mind.
Once one repents what rights or rituals do you think you need?
(March 22, 2015 at 10:48 am)Judi Lynn Wrote: I notice how my post addressed to Huggy has yet to be answered. Still waiting for a logical reply to my arguments.
I'll give it a crack if you give me the post number