(March 24, 2015 at 10:54 am)Drich Wrote:(March 24, 2015 at 9:51 am)urlawyer Wrote: Wouldn't an omniscient god already know if the child would grow up to be a good christian or not? Or better yet if he would be killed off by a zealot? In both cases, why would he "plug in" the kid knowing full well he would end up in eternal damnation?
Again as I explained, this life is for our benfit not His. So that we know that eternal damnation is what we deserve.
That is why I asked: " Could you imagine being sent to Hell moments after being created, because God knew you would be a sin monster rather than giving you the oppertunity to determine that for yourself?"
This life is the result of a righteous God giving us an oppertunity to see and experience who and what we really are.
(March 24, 2015 at 9:58 am)robvalue Wrote: Url: Nice rebuttal to my argumentMy pretend christian is now having a crisis of faith.
And yes, the idea that God is omniscient is so ludicrous that it collapses the whole system into nonsense. Try getting someone to admit to that though :p
To Huggy's credit he did answer the question of whether he'd kill his family if God commanded, he said no. No other theist has been able to answer as far as I know.
If "god" issued an order contary to the orders written for us in the NT, then that 'god' is not God.
Paul tells us were are to lay our lives down for our families, as Christ laid his life down for the Church..
To gets a different command from 'god' is to receive word for a Muhammad/Joseph smith type angel/deceiving Spirit.
1. All in all god didn't need to create hell by god creating a hell in your world view he is not all loving when he sends his own creations to said place and forgets about them. In the reality of things life really has no meaning at all no external one.
2. Again do not call upon Paul he is self appointed choose another apostle.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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