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Atheist or Agnostic?
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic?
(April 3, 2015 at 10:25 pm)datc Wrote: But if there is no evidence whatsoever for God, and there is no evidence whatsoever against God, how can you claim that lack of belief is more "in tune with reality"?

Ok firstly, there isn't no evidence whatsoever for god, its just really bad evidence that wouldn't be used in any other state of enquiry for example, scientific investigation or a court of law. Also there is evidence against the existence of your god. Plenty of stuff in the bible is physically impossible. It certainly counts against the existence of your specific god. Not that anyone will ever be able to conclusively prove that he doesn't exist. 
A lack of belief to all un evidenced, extraordinary claims is 'in tune with reality', otherwise you would be in the ridiculous position of believing every claim you hear. I own a pet dragon, yep i believe you. Every friday night I play poker with the cast of friends, yep I believe you. 

datc Wrote:As I suggested, if you live your life without worrying about God (or gods, or unicorns), then you are demonstrating your atheism to all concerned. But that's a practical lifestyle choice of your own personal active life. It has no value for the speculative question of whether God exists.

Disagree with that too. Atheism isn't a choice. Belief and the lack of isn't a choice. You are either convinced of something or you aren't. There is no conscious choice involved. It really isn't a 'practical lifestyle choice'
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 3, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Polaris - April 3, 2015 at 3:22 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 3, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Ravenshire - April 3, 2015 at 3:43 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 3, 2015 at 3:48 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 9:58 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 3, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Mudhammam - April 3, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Bad Wolf - April 3, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 4, 2015 at 10:59 am
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Whateverist - April 4, 2015 at 12:25 am
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Simon Moon - April 4, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 4, 2015 at 2:39 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 3, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by abaris - April 3, 2015 at 6:41 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Ravenshire - April 3, 2015 at 7:28 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Bad Wolf - April 3, 2015 at 9:22 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by robvalue - April 4, 2015 at 12:19 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Cyberman - April 4, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Simon Moon - April 4, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 4, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Simon Moon - April 4, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by downbeatplumb - April 5, 2015 at 6:18 am
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Ravenshire - April 6, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Mudhammam - April 4, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Whateverist - April 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by robvalue - April 4, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Bad Wolf - April 4, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Mudhammam - April 4, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Whateverist - April 4, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by datc - April 4, 2015 at 4:43 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Mudhammam - April 4, 2015 at 4:45 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Bad Wolf - April 4, 2015 at 6:00 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by comet - April 5, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by One Above All - April 5, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by comet - April 5, 2015 at 9:40 am
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by comet - April 5, 2015 at 3:18 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by comet - April 5, 2015 at 5:27 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Cyberman - April 6, 2015 at 1:44 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by robvalue - April 6, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by FatAndFaithless - April 6, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Bad Wolf - April 6, 2015 at 2:32 pm
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RE: Atheist or Agnostic? - by Bad Wolf - April 6, 2015 at 6:05 pm
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