(April 4, 2015 at 10:28 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think you are being irrational. It's obvious there is going exist someone who is the best so far in goodness and honor. And if you believe in God and recognize the nature of goodness is to act upon it and we are blameworthy on evil only because it's possible to avoid it, then surely there exists some people who did only good.
The logic I am presenting is found here in the following verses:
وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ هُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ بِعِبَادِهِ لَخَبِيرٌ بَصِيرٌ {31}
That which We have revealed to thee of the Book is the Truth,- confirming what was (revealed) before it: for Allah is assuredly- with respect to His Servants - is aware, seeing.
ثُمَّ أَوْرَثْنَا الْكِتَابَ الَّذِينَ اصْطَفَيْنَا مِنْ عِبَادِنَا ۖ فَمِنْهُمْ ظَالِمٌ لِنَفْسِهِ وَمِنْهُمْ مُقْتَصِدٌ وَمِنْهُمْ سَابِقٌ بِالْخَيْرَاتِ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ هُوَ الْفَضْلُ الْكَبِيرُ {32}
35:32] Then We gave the Book for an inheritance to those whom We chose from among Our servants; so of them (ie. our servants) is he who is unjust to himself, and of them is he who takes a middle course, and of them is he who is foremost in deeds of goodness by Allah's permission; this is the great excellence.
God being aware of his servants says among his servants is a person who is unjust to himself. Among his servants is who takes a middle course. And among them is who is foremost in good deeds, he excels all in good deeds.
The chosen ones are those who are foremost in good deeds, those who race ahead of people in good deeds.
The foremost people are those who God sees as special among his servants.
Now the question, is what does God do with such special people?
1) I don't think I'm being irrational.
2) Why do you assume god exists.
3) Why do you assume he cares about people.
4) Why do you assume you have perfect judgement on who is good and bad. virtuous or non virtuous?
5)Why are you showing me parts of a 1400 year old book as proof of logical conclusions?
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.