(April 5, 2015 at 8:51 am)One Above All Wrote:(April 5, 2015 at 8:09 am)comet Wrote: It is not about that "fence" it is about being honest.
Never met an intellectually honest self-proclaimed "agnostic" in my life.
(April 5, 2015 at 8:09 am)comet Wrote: agnostics know what they don't know.
Which, if we're talking about actual agnostics, is everything. In fact, if we're talking about actual agnostics, they don't even know what they don't know. They don't know anything. That's what an agnostic is. It's not a middleground between atheism and theism because the position of "agnostic" (no knowledge) is reserved for those with total amnesia or those who otherwise have no memories whatsoever.
(April 5, 2015 at 8:09 am)comet Wrote: Carl, Neil, Einstein, Witten.
Argument from authority. Garbage.
(April 5, 2015 at 8:09 am)comet Wrote: When you can listen to these people and understand everything they say.
Well, I only recognize three names, and I've never heard two of their voices, so...
(April 5, 2015 at 8:09 am)comet Wrote: Then you know enough to be what you are.
So we can only be what we are by listening to people from these past two centuries? How did the world exist before then?
don't do word games.
Only the facts as best we can.
you are correct in everything you said. So it gets back to honesty and facts. Honesty in our stances and honesty in how much we know. Then we can address a particular claim(s)
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity