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RE: General argument for Islam.
April 5, 2015 at 1:40 pm
(April 5, 2015 at 11:06 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The Buraq is found in hadiths, and it's nature is unknown - I never came across any stating it is a horse with wings. Also, I believe it is a metaphysical thing, as stated in Du'a Nudba, it states God ascended his spirit to the heavens...I think there are spiritual realms, and the access to them is not simply a matter of physical distance, but there is a spiritual reality to them.

I was always the opinion that the Buraq is a metaphysical reality of the desire of Mohammad. It takes him to the higher places of proximity to God.

The Egyptians believed in spirits too, yet you don't believe in Horus or Isis or Osirus.
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General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 26, 2015 at 7:10 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 26, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 26, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 26, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 26, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by DeistPaladin - April 3, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by DeistPaladin - April 3, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Angrboda - April 3, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by DeistPaladin - April 3, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by watchamadoodle - April 3, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by DeistPaladin - April 3, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Chas - April 3, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by DeadChannel - March 26, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Chas - March 26, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Minimalist - March 26, 2015 at 7:13 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by professor - March 26, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 8:56 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 26, 2015 at 8:36 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by DeadChannel - March 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by professor - March 26, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 28, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - March 28, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Minimalist - April 3, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by professor - March 26, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2015 at 10:14 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by JuliaL - March 26, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by robvalue - March 27, 2015 at 4:29 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 28, 2015 at 3:19 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - March 28, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 28, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - March 28, 2015 at 6:14 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - March 29, 2015 at 1:48 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - March 29, 2015 at 2:02 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 29, 2015 at 2:16 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by jesus_wept - March 27, 2015 at 4:48 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Lucanus - March 27, 2015 at 5:22 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Lucanus - March 27, 2015 at 8:41 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Cyberman - March 27, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by JuliaL - March 27, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - March 27, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by RobertE - March 27, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by jesus_wept - March 27, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Joods - March 27, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by JuliaL - March 27, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Joods - March 27, 2015 at 11:44 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Desert Diva - March 27, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Alex K - March 27, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Surgenator - March 27, 2015 at 11:48 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - March 28, 2015 at 1:22 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2015 at 8:27 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by RobertE - March 28, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Desert Diva - March 28, 2015 at 12:01 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by RobertE - March 28, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by paulpablo - March 29, 2015 at 6:07 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 29, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by watchamadoodle - March 29, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 2, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by watchamadoodle - April 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by watchamadoodle - April 2, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by watchamadoodle - April 3, 2015 at 7:39 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 3, 2015 at 8:42 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 2, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 2, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Cato - April 2, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by jesus_wept - April 2, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 2:08 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 3, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 5, 2015 at 6:48 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by watchamadoodle - April 3, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by robvalue - April 3, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 11:30 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 11:35 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Surgenator - April 3, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Surgenator - April 3, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Brakeman - April 3, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Minimalist - April 3, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by DeistPaladin - April 3, 2015 at 9:10 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Minimalist - April 3, 2015 at 11:10 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 12:38 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 1:31 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 2:40 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 2:13 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 2:48 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Cato - April 4, 2015 at 6:27 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 6:52 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 7:24 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 7:58 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 8:16 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2015 at 8:49 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2015 at 10:35 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2015 at 11:06 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2015 at 1:12 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 5, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2015 at 11:07 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Angrboda - April 5, 2015 at 1:08 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 5, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 5, 2015 at 5:01 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by robvalue - April 5, 2015 at 2:36 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2015 at 3:03 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 5, 2015 at 10:39 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - April 5, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by jesus_wept - April 6, 2015 at 4:57 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by pocaracas - April 6, 2015 at 5:09 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 7:01 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by jesus_wept - April 6, 2015 at 5:24 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 8:11 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Mudhammam - April 6, 2015 at 9:34 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by robvalue - April 6, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by pocaracas - April 6, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by pocaracas - April 6, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by RobertE - April 6, 2015 at 9:22 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 5:40 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2015 at 5:48 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by MysticKnight - April 6, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Brakeman - April 6, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: General argument for Islam. - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2015 at 5:58 pm
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 19, 2015 at 7:42 am
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RE: General argument for Islam. - by Jackie - April 19, 2015 at 8:10 am
RE: General argument for Islam. - by Cyberman - April 19, 2015 at 1:31 pm
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