(April 5, 2015 at 9:49 am)One Above All Wrote:(April 5, 2015 at 9:40 am)comet Wrote: don't do word games.
No word games. "Agnostic" means "without knowledge". Even if it only meant "without knowledge of the existence of deities", it's still not an answer to the question. The question, as it turns out, is "Do you believe in one or more deities?", and so the only answers are "Yes" (theism) or "No" (atheism). "I don't know if deities exist" says nothing about what you do or do not believe.
(April 5, 2015 at 9:40 am)comet Wrote: Only the facts as best we can.
The facts are spelled out above.
(April 5, 2015 at 9:40 am)comet Wrote: So it gets back to honesty and facts. Honesty in our stances and honesty in how much we know.
My stance is gnostic atheism, and for a very simple reason: the term "god" is loosely defined at best. One person's god is another person's toilet paper (possibly literally for some). I thought about the characteristics a being could have that would make me bow down and worship it. The universe, as it exists, is not compatible with those characteristics, so I can say for certain that there are no gods. Moreover, I can say that there never have been nor will there ever be gods.
(April 5, 2015 at 9:40 am)comet Wrote: Then we can address a particular claim(s)
It would help if you didn't spit out one-sentence responses with double (sometimes triple or quadruple) spacing.
I don't do "grammar proves my point" so that can be flushed with your toilet paper.
Militant is an emotional connection to anti religion and you reject what you reject because you rejected it. I get that part too. I agree with that part and your first post.
"Gnostic" That is a false claim.
I agree again with you. if there is a god you do not have to worship it. That's a personal religious stance anyway and god wouldn't care if you did or didn't if he existed. It would only care that you be you. "if" that is.
Other than you being in the know I agree with you. But who is in the know anyway.
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity
