General argument for Islam.

[Mystic]

We don't even know its written there without sources. He keeps telling us all these hadith's and translations exist which agree with him but we don't actually know that they do.

Well... he does say 'In the introduction to "Secret of the Salah of the gnostics"'...

According to google, it should be somewhere here: http://www.al-islam.org/adab-as-salat-di...troduction

That's a different book. I have one in Arabic that is similar book but he went into more detail in that one, and some less detail in other things he talked about in the Adab. The Arabic one I have the hadith is mentioned by other then Khomeini but the one introducing his book.

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Yeah but he's also told me that he has a special translation of the wisdom about beating your wife and hadith's to prove it but I haven't seen them anywhere.

But the point is that its not my job to go round researching his nonsense to see if its real or not.

And unless I'm missing something and don't know how to work the search feature on my browser anymore, his quote is not there.

Presumably we have a bad translation or something...

Here you can check out this thread: http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/2349...hia-islam/

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And, just because it's written there, it's automagically true, huh?
I still see only people trying to convince other people of what they claim.

I'm explaining that there is spiritual realities, metaphysical realities, and "heaven/sky/ascension" isn't all literal.

I also found a hadith that talked about why it's mustahab (loved by God but not obligatory)to say seven takbirs (God is Greater) in start of Salah, and it was said because there is 7 earths and 7 heavens and 7 veils of light and talked about unveiling/ascending with each takbeer.