Pediatrician Refuses Treatment of Baby of Lesbian Parents

[Mister Agenda]

If you have any evidence to support your claim I would like to see it. 

Sure you would. That's why you decided to sit on your thumbs until I came along to spoonfeed you rather than lift a finger to look into it yourself.

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Now if you could convince me that the market isn't going to serve gays then maybe there is a problem that can only be corrected by infringing on the freedom of others.

 A lot of Christian business owners are fairly salivating at the prospect of being able to deny goods and services to gay people. The ludicrous RFRA law as initially written in Indiana would fold at the first constitutional challenge, so I'm not too worried about it's implementation. It's up to people who can actually learn from history and think through the consequences of an action to protect zealous idiots from the disaster of getting what they want. 

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I don't know what challenges the black community faced but I am alive today and simply do not believe a gay person can't easily find a florist, or a photographer, or obtain medical care when they need it.  I take the position that before we start limiting peoples individual rights, we need a damn good reason.  Preventing butthurt is not a good reason.

In this day an age such ignorance is appalling and so easily correctable that I can only assume you are proud of it for some reason. In addtion to your admitted ignorance (which a sincere person would have corrected before proceeding to share their opinion, admittedly formulated in ignorance) you show a deficiency in imagining scenarios, and I'm not sure whether it would be worse because of the blinders you're wearing or actual lack of ability. I suppose the former has the benefit of being potentially curable, in theory. Is it so hard to think this problem through to foresee that in small towns there may be only one florist, photographer, or doctor?

But I agree the free market can take care of this problem: Allow any store to refuse service to anyone they want, as long as they post the list of people they won't serve prominently in a location easily seen before anyone enters the store. The proprieters won't even have to see the people they despise, the people they despise won't have to deal with going into a store expecting normal service only to be treated like a second-class citizen, and the majority of Americans who have actually reached the point of despising douchebags who won't treat customers the same will know who to boycott.

Of course, if being that open about their bigotry was the price of engaging in discrimination, it would be hard to find a business owner with the conviction to do so: not if it makes a noticeable dent in their revenue. The main problem with my version of the law is that it's a lot of trouble to go through to make a point, and like the RFRA, there's no reason to pass it in the first place, because no one's religious freedom was taken away in the first place.

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lmaooo I just dont get you Caucasians your smart people are atheist and your other people still believe jesus is a white guy that is hiding in texas.

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them arabics gata go back to were thw came from

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Mm. kinda sounds like it from where I'm sitting, yes. On account of them being, y'know, doctors.

Yes

What?

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I was hoping someone else had provided the evidence Heywood is too lazy or too incapable to find on his own, but having read the rest of the thread and seen that is not the case, here we go:

Blacks were routinely turned away from hospitals during segregation either because they were 'white hospitals' or if they admitted blacks, because there weren't enough 'Negro beds' ('black wards' were typically in the basement or attic). So-called 'black hospitals' were typically poor in resources and as a result, poorer in care, on average. By 1960, only 6% of Southern hospitals were integrated (and about 17% of Northern hospitals still weren't).

It is hard to find the names of critically injured black people who were turned away from a hospital because they were black, AND died before they could receive proper care as a result, unless they were prominent: blues singer Bessie Smith, Juliette Derricott (dean of admittance as Fisk), and the father-in-law of NAACP director Walter White. But it was routine for a black person who was, say, hit by a car to have delayed care because they had to wait to go to a black hospital or a black ward; and sometimes they dies by the time they got to someone to take care of their injuries.

Furthermore, the idea that black people died because the closest hospital wouldn't serve them or they couldn't be served until they were transferred to a black ward should be self evident. It would be a miracle if it didn't happen under those conditions. And that's not even going into the ones that would have survived if they had been able to get care at a better-funded 'white hospital'.