RE: Pediatrician Refuses Treatment of Baby of Lesbian Parents
April 10, 2015 at 5:50 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2015 at 5:55 am by Heywood.)
(April 10, 2015 at 5:31 am)abaris Wrote:(April 10, 2015 at 5:02 am)Heywood Wrote: Your position seems to be that healthcare is a fundamental right(please correct me if I am wrong).....that those who provide it should do so without any question or qualms. Well sex is a fundamental right....does that mean we can force people to have sex with each other because they should be doing so anyways without any questions or qualms?
Asinine comparison. One is an urge and the other should indeed be a fundamental right. It is the hallmark of a civilized society to not let it's people rot in the street or die of preventable causes. In most civilized countries it is, in many cases since the late 19th century. Bismarck introduced it in Germany in the 1880ies. Not because he loved the great unwashed that much, but because he knew it to be a way to keep people from radicalising.
And don't give that unfounded argument of doctors not getting paid in a social society. They're as rich as in the states if they're not sucking at their job. The only difference being that the states provide the insurance for their citizens by using their taxes and contributions instead of private insurers making an additional dime.
If sex is not a fundamental right...just an urge....then there is nothing wrong with the state banning the acting upon the urge to have homosexual sex.
The truth is, if there is anything that is fundamental it is sex. We have been having sex before we began to exchange goods and services, and we have been having sex since before we began to practice medicine. If we retain our right of refusal in providing sex, why can't we retain our right of refusal in providing medicine?
You guys can rationalize this all you want, but the truth is, you really want to control the actions of others. You want to use the force of law to make others behave as you think they should be have for no good reason other than that is what you think is just and proper.
And here I am labeled a troll, I am warned by the moderators, for calling you out on it. But it is the truth.
(April 10, 2015 at 5:47 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Except when you're a medical professional who has taken an oath to do no harm (most practising doctors) and are ethically bound to treat/refer anyone and everyone who comes to you without prejudice (all medical staff & professionals). Of course, anyone is free to breach that ethical framework, but they just can't practise medicine legally anymore if they do. ^_^
That is right. If you make it illegal then somehow your position is magically justified.
Sorry it don't work that way.
