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To those who believe Bible is not literal...
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RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal...
(September 3, 2010 at 1:29 pm)annatar Wrote: Faith:Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.
I thought this was the right deffinition of faith.. I may be wrong though since english is not my native tongue.

Arcanus Wrote:Faith: Being persuaded and fully committed in trust, involving a confident belief in the truth, value, and trustworthiness of God. When it comes to Christianity, 'faith' is defined by three separate but vitally connected aspects (especially from Luther and Melancthon onwards): notitia (informational content), assensus (intellectual assent), and fiducia (committed trust). So faith is the sum of having the information, being persuaded of its truthfulness, and trusting in it. To illustrate the three aspects: "Christ died for ours sins" (notitia); "I am persuaded that Christ died for our sins" (notitia + assensus); "I deeply commit in trust to Christ who I am persuaded died for our sins" (notitia + assensus + fiducia). Only the latter constitutes faith, on the Christian view.

Consequently, notitia and fiducia without assensus is blind and therefore not faith. This shipwrecks the egregious canard that faith is merely a blind leap. Faith goes beyond reason—i.e., into the arena of trust—but never against reason. From the Enlightenment onwards, faith has been subject to constant attempts at redefining it into the realm of the irrational or irrelevant (e.g., Kant's noumenal category); but all such attempts are built on irresponsible straw man caricatures that bear no resemblance to faith as held under the Christian view: notitia, assensus, and fiducia.
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To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - August 29, 2010 at 2:02 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 10:02 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 7:36 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 1, 2010 at 11:57 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 10:40 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 10:56 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 11:11 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 11:48 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 12:08 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - August 29, 2010 at 12:50 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 3:21 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 1, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 4:40 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 1, 2010 at 5:50 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 1, 2010 at 6:42 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 7:56 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 1, 2010 at 9:18 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 9:24 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 2, 2010 at 8:42 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by chatpilot - September 2, 2010 at 10:15 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2010 at 6:52 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by theVOID - September 2, 2010 at 7:03 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 2, 2010 at 7:22 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - September 2, 2010 at 7:33 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - September 2, 2010 at 7:50 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - September 2, 2010 at 8:14 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - September 2, 2010 at 8:22 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by chatpilot - September 2, 2010 at 10:23 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 3, 2010 at 5:47 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 12:51 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 3, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 3:56 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Godschild - September 9, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by padraic - September 9, 2010 at 11:01 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Entropist - September 9, 2010 at 11:07 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Godschild - September 10, 2010 at 2:57 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Entropist - September 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Godschild - September 11, 2010 at 2:17 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by DoodleBag - September 11, 2010 at 8:15 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Entropist - September 11, 2010 at 8:40 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Xyster - September 11, 2010 at 7:29 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 8:39 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 9:01 am
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 13, 2010 at 7:00 pm
RE: To those who believe Bible is not literal... - by annatar - September 14, 2010 at 12:06 pm

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