(April 12, 2015 at 11:01 am)abaris Wrote:(April 12, 2015 at 10:54 am)Spooky Wrote: A bad person (whatever definition of which you may use) is a bad person regardless of what creed/ideology they use on the surface.
No, there's no good or bad person to begin with. It's the environment shaping us into one or the other. Most simply stay average persons for their whole lives. But the Milgram expirement has shown that average persons can be turned into monsters, given the right environmental influence, which ideologies provide.
This seems to be the Nature Vs. Nurture question. I respectfully disagree with your assessment. I believe there are people who are "Bad" by nature. I come to this opinion from my experience working in treatment. Most of the kids in treatment (Adolescent Sex Offender Program, 13-20 age range) indeed were themselves victims first, shaped by their environment as you say. However I met a couple, who regardless of their upbringing/environment were and would have become monsters.
One in particular was a 17 year old boy we eventually put on the Depo Provera shot. (Female birth control shot). It was intended as a last resort before chemical castration. He was extremely intelligent for his age, but liked little girls. <10 years old were his preference. He had over 100 victims, the most recent of which (and the one that landed him in treatment) was a 8 year old he drug into a bathroom at a park.
Occasionally (I believe) there are people who are born monsters and will never be anything less. Whether they claim to be Atheist/Agnostic/Christian/Jewish/Whatever, will never change what they truly are.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
