(April 17, 2015 at 9:30 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:(April 17, 2015 at 1:59 am)Heywood Wrote: McDonald's is going to pay the minimum wage or the market rate for labor which ever is lower regardless if government safety nets exist or not.
Um, no. Even the most conservative economists of the 19th century, the heyday of deregulation and fuck-the-poor, acknowledged there was a natural minimum wage: base subsistence.
The idea is so simple even you should be able to understand it: people won't work for so little that they starve to death anyway. If people are going to starve to death anyway, they'd rather do so in leisure.
The only reason McDonald's can pay so little is that their labor costs are subsidized by government safety nets. Take them away and McDonald's would either have to pay more or lose their workforce and thus their business.
Clear?
He wont get this, he has swallowed all the GOP cold war Cuba Stalin Fuxs News crap. It is totally foreign to him that liberals can an do value the private sector. Where we disagree is how to make it work effectively.
He advocates the same "fuck the poor" attitude that caused the great depression. He is just too blind to see that.
Work should be easy, not hard. It is why we invent things. The emotional, physical and economic stability of the worker, allows them to focus and be more productive at work. You put in slave wages, that worker will either be too worn out, unhealthy or simply not give a fuck.
The amount of hours you spend at work are not as important as how effective you are while at work. It is unhealthy to have someone be physically stressed out, emotionally stressed out, and subject to a poor diet because they have to chose between bills or food.
You provide workers a life outside 40 hours a week, and vacation time, and the ability to pay rent, mortgage, utilities and car payment, allowing them a life outside the job allows them to focus when they are on the job.
The type of productivity we have now is only a short term benefit that goes to the top. Healthy productivity is creating stability, not indentured slavery.
