(April 18, 2015 at 2:20 pm)alpha male Wrote:(April 18, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Epicurus is the source of that quote, not you. All you did was ad the argument "Then he has he own reasons"First, I'm not asking you to say OK. I don't care what you do.
Fine then, if that asshole doesn't want to explain them why should I simply say "ok"?
Second, He does explain, in Romans 9. He allows evil in order to make a complete revelation of himself to us. E.g., we can't know him as comforter if there is no suffering. We can't know him as judge - or savior - if there is no sin.
Bullshit,
That still puts you as his property.
You'd have me believe that there is a good reason Adam Walsh abducted by a child rapist, raped, sodomized, and decapitated has a reason? Would you sit and watch that happen to your own child if you had the power to stop it?
We can't know god without sin? Yep, as Bill Marher put it summarizing here "Can't have a super hero without a super villain". Yep, cant have Yoda without Darth Vader.
Your comic book is merely an old ignorant book written by humans who didn't understand the nature of reality.
In nature, in evolution, both cooperation and force work. Our evolutionary empathy is what we call "good" and is why we seek cooperation and when we are empathetic avoid harm to others. Evolution also unfortunately produces cruelty and force, and that is the "evil" humans try to avoid.
Your holy book merely takes our natural behaviors both good and bad and turns it into a comic book.
See if you can spot the pattern.
"We cant know Yahweh without sin"
"We cant know Allah without sin"
"We cant know lightening without Thor"
"We cant know spaghetti without the Flying Spaghetti Monster".
Tell me, would you convert if a Muslim quoted the Koran? No, so why do you think you are doing any better by quoting your holy book? Everyone quotes their holy books, so?
If you stupidly want to subject yourself to lab rat status, you can. I don't base my life on old books of myth, and most certainly would not value a being whom I cannot remove from his power whom does not need my consent to rule over me.