(April 20, 2015 at 4:21 pm)Dystopia Wrote:(April 20, 2015 at 3:28 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The hostility towards feminism I see is mainly due to the feminists who seem to make it their mission to only focus on women's issues and either ignore or outright deny issues which also affect men.Why the fuck should a group about women's issues focus on men's problems? Do you complain that cancer institutes don't research auto-immune diseases as well? Are you going to play the DontForgetTheMen hashtag? I could as well complain LGBT doesn't worry about straight rights.
The "Egalitarianism" card is treacherous because one doesn't exclude the other. Feminism is a subsect of egalitarianism. Curiously I actually don't support fully egalitarianism because I believe complete equality is impossible to achieve at the very least because of social class - Everyone has a different headstart. So in a sense I'm not an egalitarian in the true meaning of the word but I still support equality within reason.
I don't think anyone here is sexist like right wing religious nuts. But sexism towards men DOES exist. Ever see that God Bond spot with Shack "Man up". That perpetuates the stereotype that men are supposed to be tough, and never fail or be supported by women.
The only beef I have with feminists is while they rightfully tell men they have no right to control their bodies or have the right to tell them what to wear as adults, many of them turn around and tell women not to wear tight cloths or never show their naked bodies to men.
If women don't want men subjecting them to gender rolls then why should men be subject to gender roles?
What matters in any relationship isn't what is between someones legs or what they wear. What matters is consent. If women dont like men telling them what to do with their bodies, and they are right, then those same women shouldn't be telling other women what they should ware or who they display their bodies to.
Just like men should not be telling other men how tough they need to act.