RE: Another Good Reason to be a Christian
April 20, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2015 at 9:51 pm by robvalue.)
It's weird because I'm often "criticised" for not being emotional enough; now I'm too emotional 
Oh well. I have a wealth of extremely irrational emotions, but I hope I am aware when they start to affect my judgement. In this case, I've accepted as a fact that Lek has chosen his religion and is sticking to it, at least for now, despite my best efforts to put forward my opinions on why it's not logical.
But I don't want to go around judging who is "right or wrong" or more logical, so if I disagree with someone, I just accept we haven't been able to reach a resolution on that particular point. But I still care about the person as a whole, and I respect their right to hold whatever beliefs they want, no matter how absurd they seem to me. And I'd rather they are happy while holding those beliefs than miserable, because that is nicer for them.
I would say the happiness is real; but that is derived from what I believe to be a misguided source. That's the whole point really, in my opinion Lek cannot differentiate from the happiness that would be caused by his beliefs being true from the happiness in just holding those beliefs and assuming they are true when they are not. That's why relying solely on emotions is not logical.
For all I know, I'm entirely deluded and all the happiness I think I feel in my life is from one massive delusion while I sit dribbling in a hospital. But I want everyone to be as happy as possible, whether their beliefs are true or not. Maybe you could argue that's not logical, but that's just how my morality works. Why would I want them to be miserable as well as "wrong"? I suppose as an incentive to change their views. But it's not my place to try and make them feel bad, that's rather underhanded and relies on me actually being right which is presumptions, to justify.

Oh well. I have a wealth of extremely irrational emotions, but I hope I am aware when they start to affect my judgement. In this case, I've accepted as a fact that Lek has chosen his religion and is sticking to it, at least for now, despite my best efforts to put forward my opinions on why it's not logical.
But I don't want to go around judging who is "right or wrong" or more logical, so if I disagree with someone, I just accept we haven't been able to reach a resolution on that particular point. But I still care about the person as a whole, and I respect their right to hold whatever beliefs they want, no matter how absurd they seem to me. And I'd rather they are happy while holding those beliefs than miserable, because that is nicer for them.
I would say the happiness is real; but that is derived from what I believe to be a misguided source. That's the whole point really, in my opinion Lek cannot differentiate from the happiness that would be caused by his beliefs being true from the happiness in just holding those beliefs and assuming they are true when they are not. That's why relying solely on emotions is not logical.
For all I know, I'm entirely deluded and all the happiness I think I feel in my life is from one massive delusion while I sit dribbling in a hospital. But I want everyone to be as happy as possible, whether their beliefs are true or not. Maybe you could argue that's not logical, but that's just how my morality works. Why would I want them to be miserable as well as "wrong"? I suppose as an incentive to change their views. But it's not my place to try and make them feel bad, that's rather underhanded and relies on me actually being right which is presumptions, to justify.
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