(September 8, 2010 at 10:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You are always so out of touch, G-C. YOu really need to get out more and find out what your fellow xtians are up to.
Min I stay in tune with what's going on in America and the rest of the world, just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I'm out of touch. Actually all it indicates is your lack of tolorence towards those who disagree with you.
Quote:In a speech last week, Sarah Palin promoted belief in God as a form of patriotism, dismissed notions that "America isn't a Christian nation," and denounced a federal judge's ruling that it's unconstitutional for government to declare a National Day of Prayer.
Actually I agree with her statement here. I'm not a Sarah Palin fan I do not support all of her opinions but I do support her right to express them even if it irritates you. Many people including myself believe that burning the American flag is unpatriotic and others see no problem with that. So how is the belief in God and the burning of the flag, different from each other.
Quote:Drake: I think it's appropriate to pray for the will of God. I'm not saying anything, what I'm doing is repeating what God is saying, if that puts me on somebodies list then I'll just have to be on their list.
Colmes: You would like for the president of the United States to die?
Drake: If he does not turn to God and does not turn his life around I am asking God to enforce in imprecatory prayers throughout the scripture that would cause him death, that's correct.
I also believe in praying for God's will. I don't agree with praying for God to curse a person and cause him to die. If our president dies in office it will not be because this person believes he can change the will of God. God desires that our relationship with Him be of love not hatred. God's ultimate will is done wheither we ask Him to do it or not. I'm sure God does many things each day that is in His ultimate will that no one ever realizes.
Quote: About a third of the respondents to a survey sent to Christian activists maintained that the American Civil Liberties Union was the most dangerous group in America. The second most dangerous were gay rights groups. And 5% of the respondents said militias were the most dangerous.
Traditional American values scored very low among the conservative Christian activists surveyed. About 80% declared that members of the above "dangerous groups" should not be allowed to: make a public speech, run for public office, demonstrate in public, or operate legally. Only 44% said these "dangerous ones" should not be allowed to teach in public schools.
In cooperation with the Institute for First Amendment Studies, the Bliss Institute, of the University of Ohio, conducted a 1997 survey of conservative Christian activists. Of the 1200 contacted, about 600 responded to the comprehensive survey. The results represent a cross-section of between 200,000 and 400,000 Americans.
The respondents were almost all white (97%) and a majority were male (62%). Seventy percent had college degrees (of which 47% claimed post-grad degrees). Income level was moderate, with 65% earning $50,000 or more a year. Fifteen percent earned more than $150,000 a year.
Almost 100% surveyed identified themselves as one form or another of conservative Christian, with 71% stating specifically, evangelical Protestant. Eighty-six percent believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible, saying that Satan is a real being, and Jesus is the only way to salvation.
Sixty percent believe the world will end in Armageddon, and 56% believe that Christians are obligated to try to convert Jews.
This survey was from 1997....I imagine things are much worse now.
I agree with the bold text statment. I disaree with the italized statement. The underlined is bull, here's why. There is no way 600 conservative christians could represent 200,000 to 400,000 typical Americans that's ludicrous. 97% of Americans are neither white or male actually women out number males. I seriously doubt that 62% of Americans have a college degree. 65% of Americans make less than $50,000 a year. When you contact 1200 conservative Christians, I'm not sure of this ha ha, but shouldn't one expect to have 100% of them say they were conservative christians and that they would be in agreement on matters of salvation,satan and ie. I agree that from the surveys I've seen lately that surveys are getting worse all the time but I'm not sure how a survey could be much worse than this one.
Perspective is everything.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
