(January 21, 2009 at 5:10 pm)CoxRox Wrote:(January 21, 2009 at 3:05 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: Technically, he doesn't have to give an argument. He's at the default position of "Bullshit, till you prove it with real evidence." Mosts theists don't seem to understand they have the burden of proof
You are quite right about the burden of proof being with the believers but to speak up on behalf of believers if I may; when I first joined this forum, I too was very interested to discover why atheists don't believe in a god or in the supernatural. I figured you guys would humour me at least and explain your positions, which I'm very pleased to say many of you have done. You have helped me to understand this onus being on the believers and most importantly the main reasons why you don't believe in a god or the supernatural. When I first joined here, I used to look at the world around me: the 'creation' as I saw it (and still do I suppose) and wondered why you guys didn't 'see' this proof. I wasn't thinking of burden of proof etc. I was 'seeing' God around me and wondered why you didn't see the same thing. Many of you have spent much time debating with me about why you don't see God or indeed believe in such a thing and I thank you for your time.
I'll take this as a bit of a go against me. I am not a patient person, I think I have told you CR this previously. I will not indulge you in your long exchanges over creation/evolution etc.
You WANT to believe in God. That's up to you.
I see no point in treating Dagda any differently to you.
I say that the probability is that God doesn't exist. You and Dagda must give me evidence to alter that probability if I am to take you both seriously.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
