(April 25, 2015 at 11:35 pm)wallym Wrote:(April 17, 2015 at 4:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You are stuck in your own well intended sense of fairness.
No credible scientist would or should claim they know everything.
But in the history of claims, past present there is tons humans can throw in the trash can of bad claims and not lose any sleep.
We no longer think the sun revolves around the earth. We no longer think the heart does the thinking, and humans literally thought it did. We no longer think blessing someone, outside of a hollow formality, that by doing that it will prevent your soul from escaping your body when you sneeze.
We no longer think Ra controlled the sun. We no longer think Poseidon controlled the oceans.
We have tons of dead myths of the past that humans no longer subscribe to. We literally know in a scientific sense why an amputee can falsely feel pain from a hand or foot they no longer have.
Scientists currently are not arguing finite or infinite, and either way the top scientists won't claim either. But what science IS pointing to is that none of this requires a cognition. Our cognition is really no different than accepting that it is complex do to long term building natural collections of events, and not a prime mover being a watchmaker at the start.
What we know so far points to "all this" being a giant weather pattern. It looks like "all this" simply changes states without cognition, and our awareness is simply a blip much like most acorns rot and the adult trees you do end up seeing are the real minority.
I'm not really thinking fairness. Feeling like you know a god created the universe is pretty dumb, but the natures they have assigned to the God are impossibilities.
If someone says "I'm psychic! If you think of a word, I can tell you what number it starts with." You don't debate them on the existence of psychic powers. You just point out the indisputable fact words begin with letters and not numbers.
Actually do do whatever works and no one tactic will work 100% of the time on everyone. Argue science, argue morality, argue absurdity, argue logic, argue contradictions, both in the library and the boxing ring. One size does not fit all.
