(September 12, 2010 at 12:49 pm)ThinkingMan Wrote: Unfortunately I base my views and opinions on intellect, logic and science(where applicable) and AM STILL WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO REFUTE A SINGLE POINT I have made. Perhaps if one does so I can accept and changes my views.
You are still so devoid of intellect that you will be convinced of a creator only if you SEE HIM and TOUCH HIM even though YOU KNOW FULL WELL that his charachteristics of unlimited and independent are outside of your realm. This logical truth is is described in the Quran 6:103:
"No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension..."
How then can one satisfy a people who have illogical and self contradicting approaches to determining truth? Indeed God can only be arrived at through his creation by "people who have sense..."
So when given a formal refutation of the cosmological argument you don't address a single point in the rejoinder at all. Priceless.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
