Game of Thrones Season 5 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]

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If it's what I think he's talking about, it won't happen this season. GRRM really needs to get that sixth book out before season 6 of the show, or they are going to start really spoiling the books.

Or they start making movies instead of the TV series.  I've heard they might go that route.  

Hadn't heard that. It would be a lucrative thing for them to start from scratch and do the entire series in movie form. I cannot imagine HBO giving up the rights while the show is on. But I'd totally pay for the movies. Start this train all over again.

I think Littlefinger's whole plan is to have Sansa installed as Warden of the North. He doesn't want the North, but he does want someone in there that he knows he can trust. The Bolton's aren't that. Sansa, he believes, is. I do think Theon will get his vengeance. This whole storyline has so completely departed from the books that I have no inkling of what might happen.

So... you think Little Finger wants to become king and have a trusted warden of the North or something?  If he doesn't want the North for himself, then what does he want?

I think Littlefinger and Varys were working against each other for the same goal: give the Seven Kingdoms back to the Targaryens. Littlefinger wants to prove the most valuable player in doing so, and garner the most power after all is said and done. The North is big, the size of the other six+ kingdoms (Dorne, the Crownlands, the Vale, the Riverlands, the Stormlands, The Westerlands, the Reach, and the Iron Islands) combined. But it is barren and doesn't carry the power that the Westerlands, the Reach, or the Stormlands hold. I think that Littlefinger wants to raise his station such that he could be the Hand of the King. He has no hope of being the most powerful man in Westeros, but if he is puppetmaster to all of the plebes in Westeros, and installs Dany and her King (and he knows something that will help him do this, I suspect) they will be indebted to him and his influence enough that he could aspire to be the hand---with the Vale and the North in tow, and maybe even Casterly Rock.

But  I would love it if Sansa undid Ramsay's work and convinced him to kill Ramsay, marry her as a Greyjoy, and rule the North.

With Sansa and Theon in the same place it's only a matter of time before their stories collide again.  OOOOOO!!!!  Maybe Theon is the one that ends up saving Sansa from Ramsay's psycho girlfriend?

I don't think Sansa knows about Theon's betrayal.

No, she doesn't.  Theon might tell her and then my awesome idea of Sansa+Theon=4ever will be ruined!!!

This, to me, is the most interesting storyline. This is likely because I have no idea what to expect. I think you're on to something with Theon saving Sansa from Ramsay's ladies. It would be even better if that moment was when she recognizes him!

I really do hope we visit the Greyjoys and meet Victarion. And I hope we see more of Areo Hotah. His longaxe is just as I pictured it.

I don't know what any of this means...

Theon's people! In book 4, the Greyjoys and Theon's uncles play a big part. His uncles Victarion, Euron Crow's Eye, and Aeron Damphair are awesome characters. His sister Asha (Yara in the series) is a freaking boss, too!

Areo Hotah is the captain of the Guard at Sunspear. He is the personal bodyguard of Prince Doran Martell. The black guy with the bitchin' axe in the scene where Elia argues with Doran at the Water Gardens. He is a minor character, but one of my faves.

I actually think the most awesome thing would be for Dany to rule all by herself and not get married, but seeing as she has this huge blood-right thing happening with the throne I can't see her going to her death and not leaving a Targaryen heir.  

That doesn't mean she has to get married, though.  She could have Dario's kid.  (Which would suck because she'd be having version 2's kid, not super-hot version 1's.)   But without a marriage and a "legitimate" heir, it'll just leave doubts about who the next queen/king would be after she died.

Oh she'll leave a Targaryen heir. And in keeping with a long Targaryen tradition.