RE: Can You Technically Disprove the God of the Bible?
April 30, 2015 at 4:53 pm
(This post was last modified: April 30, 2015 at 5:00 pm by Lek.)
(April 30, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: Psalm 19:7 7The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul; The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Proverbs 30:5-65 “Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. 6 Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.
I found about 6 more or so that are very similar. Do you not agree the bible is the word of god? Is not every word flawless?
If I want to make a point or teach a truth and I create a story which achieves that objective perfectly, then my words are flawless. The words of the bible teach the truth that God wants to impart to us through our reading of the text.
(April 30, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Jericho Wrote:(April 30, 2015 at 1:30 pm)Lek Wrote: Where does the bible claim that every word in it is true?
The following is an excerpt from your fairy tale book:
"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness," -2 Timothy 3:16
Most theists I have spoken to accept 2 Timothy 3:16 as proof that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. The text indicates that all Scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching. They say that every writing in the Bible is a revelation from God that can be trusted as factually true. Clearly, if the Bible is given by revelation of the God of truth, then it can be trusted at every point as an accurate depiction. The problem with answering the question this way is that it presupposes that the verse itself is truthful—which is the very claim at issue.
When I ask the simple question, "How do we know that that verse is true?" I am always answered with: “Well it’s in the Bible." But how do we know the Bible is true? “2 Timothy 3:16 assures us that it is.” This is a vicious circular argument. It must first arbitrarily assume the very thing it is trying to prove. Circular reasoning of this type is not useful in a debate because it does not prove anything beyond what it merely assumes. After all, this type of argument would be equally valid for any other book that claims to be inspired by a god or gods. How do we know that book X is inspired by God? “Because it says it is.” But how do we know that what it’s saying is true? “Well, God wouldn’t lie!”
The verse is correct. It is inspired and profitable for those things. It's not inspired for scientific accuracy. It's inspired to be useful for the purpose God intended it for. The story of "the three little pigs" is not historically or scientifically correct, but it wasn't written for that reason. It was written to teach a lesson about life and that's what we read it for. God inspired the bible to lead us to Christ and that's what it's profitable for.
