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Showing that the Bible is cockamamy doesn't necessarily show that doesn't show that "God" is as well. There are heaps of interpretations of what "God" is, these interpretations being made up by the many variants of believer who have, (or haven't), read it. The majority of the varying interpretations of what exactly "God" is supposed to entail, probably have some fundamental aspects in common. It is some of these aspects which can be disproved by logic.
One author, (co-author) who has made a good 'fist' of disproving "God" is Michael Martin, (Wikipedia entry). In that Wikipedia entry you will note some of the books he has had a hand in authoring. I have read . . .
The Impossibility of God, (Amazon).
The Improbability of God, (Amazon).
The Case Against Christianity, (Amazon).
For the purposes of this thread, "The Impossibility of God", does the best job. In this book, the authors take various features which may be attributed to "God", (and have been by Christian apologists), and using formal logic, show that the attributes are impossible in the world we know to exist, and so any god proposed to have the particular attribute, is in turn impossible. All the books I cite have a great deal of analysis in them, and are heavy reading, but they do a good job of what they claim. If you go to the Amazon sites I have psoted above, you can use the Look Inside function, (), to see what kinds of things are covered in the books.
(April 30, 2015 at 12:07 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: We can look at things from the bible starting at the beginning: There are two ludicrous, contradicting biblical creation accounts. About 6,000-10,000 years ago, the bible claims Adam and Eve were the first humans on this planet. That differs from scientific fact, that humans are at least 150,000 years old.. Need I go farther?
Also, just straightforward reasoning such as: Where are all the firsthand eyewitness written testimony of jesus's miracles he performed during his life? You would think if the only begotten son of god came to earth and performed miracles, someone would have written about it. Even if there were thousands of written statements, that shouldn't be good evidence to anyone anyway, but you would think at least that much would exist.
The bible disproves itself, that part is obvious. Would you go as far to say as the god of the bible can be disproved using the bible and/or logic? Feel free to quote more infallible passages.
Showing that the Bible is cockamamy doesn't necessarily show that doesn't show that "God" is as well. There are heaps of interpretations of what "God" is, these interpretations being made up by the many variants of believer who have, (or haven't), read it. The majority of the varying interpretations of what exactly "God" is supposed to entail, probably have some fundamental aspects in common. It is some of these aspects which can be disproved by logic.
One author, (co-author) who has made a good 'fist' of disproving "God" is Michael Martin, (Wikipedia entry). In that Wikipedia entry you will note some of the books he has had a hand in authoring. I have read . . .
The Impossibility of God, (Amazon).
The Improbability of God, (Amazon).
The Case Against Christianity, (Amazon).
For the purposes of this thread, "The Impossibility of God", does the best job. In this book, the authors take various features which may be attributed to "God", (and have been by Christian apologists), and using formal logic, show that the attributes are impossible in the world we know to exist, and so any god proposed to have the particular attribute, is in turn impossible. All the books I cite have a great deal of analysis in them, and are heavy reading, but they do a good job of what they claim. If you go to the Amazon sites I have psoted above, you can use the Look Inside function, (), to see what kinds of things are covered in the books.
There are no atheists in terrorist training camps.