RE: Couple of clingers in my de-converting
May 2, 2015 at 12:06 am
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2015 at 12:14 am by Jenny A.)
This appears to be addressed to TLDR and not the forum in general, but I will answer anyway and you can read it or not as you see fit.
The answer to your question is not how to feel confident that humans are not on on a biblical track, but to ask yourself whatever made you think (or more likely feel) we ever were. I see no sign whatsoever that biblical prophesy is any better than fortune cookies, and no evidence of god. Without evidence god is irrelevant because the non-existent is irrelevant.
You see, the burden to prove any proposition, including the existence of the Christian god is on the proponent of the claim. And no such evidence exists. I can't prove to you that unicorns, Zeus, the Loch Ness Monster, Apollo, Allah, Ra, or many other things don't exist. But the absence of evidence that they do exist makes believing in them silly. The same is true of the god of Isaac, Jacob, and Abraham or of the divinity of Jesus.
I would not suggest that the fact that most people alive today are more moral than the god of the OT proves he does not exist, but his morality has nothing to do with whether he exists. Evidence does. Have any evidence such a being exists? I don't. Many great minds have tried and failed to show his existence. If the evidence were there we'd be confronted with it every day. Instead we have a contradictory, non historic, iron age book. So I dismiss the god hypothesis for lack of evidence.
What people have and haven't accomplished is also irrelevant to the question of whether god exists.
It comes down to evidence. That's it.
The answer to your question is not how to feel confident that humans are not on on a biblical track, but to ask yourself whatever made you think (or more likely feel) we ever were. I see no sign whatsoever that biblical prophesy is any better than fortune cookies, and no evidence of god. Without evidence god is irrelevant because the non-existent is irrelevant.
You see, the burden to prove any proposition, including the existence of the Christian god is on the proponent of the claim. And no such evidence exists. I can't prove to you that unicorns, Zeus, the Loch Ness Monster, Apollo, Allah, Ra, or many other things don't exist. But the absence of evidence that they do exist makes believing in them silly. The same is true of the god of Isaac, Jacob, and Abraham or of the divinity of Jesus.
I would not suggest that the fact that most people alive today are more moral than the god of the OT proves he does not exist, but his morality has nothing to do with whether he exists. Evidence does. Have any evidence such a being exists? I don't. Many great minds have tried and failed to show his existence. If the evidence were there we'd be confronted with it every day. Instead we have a contradictory, non historic, iron age book. So I dismiss the god hypothesis for lack of evidence.
What people have and haven't accomplished is also irrelevant to the question of whether god exists.
It comes down to evidence. That's it.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
