RE: Did Yahweh Set Adam Up?
May 2, 2015 at 2:01 am
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2015 at 2:09 am by robvalue.)
All that is being demonstrated, over and over, is the argument from ignorance fallacy.
It's not a valid argument, no matter how many times you make it.
Whether or not we personally can prove a statement is wrong has no bearing on whether that statement is true. So putting forward that challenge does not make your argument rational. It does not follow that any particular person being unable to prove you wrong means you are right. For one thing, the truth of your claim then becomes subjective to the person you are making it to. It is right as long as they don't have the tools to prove you wrong? Truth is not subjective. If you think truth is subjective, you're dealing with a different version of truth than us, one that has no bearing on reality.
For anyone who regularly uses this argument, please learn that it is fallacious and demonstrates nothing other than you have no actual positive argument to back up your claim for which you have the burden of proof. See on my website:
http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!argumen...lity/c1831
All you are "proving" is that you are making unfalisifiable claims. Such claims are always worthless because they rely entirely on the argument from ignorance, and are an admission that you cannot know they are true either. If a claim is unfalisifiable, it's contradictory claim is also unfalisifiable and all you are doing is arbitrarily choosing one position when you have no way of knowing which is true. That is where positive evidence for positions comes in to clear up this guessing game. And just because it may or may not be true, that doesn't mean it's 50/50 or even 1/99.
For one thing, all religions use this exact same argument to "prove" they are true. Yet they can't all be true. Therefor, the argument is invalid. Pretty simple.
It's not a valid argument, no matter how many times you make it.
Whether or not we personally can prove a statement is wrong has no bearing on whether that statement is true. So putting forward that challenge does not make your argument rational. It does not follow that any particular person being unable to prove you wrong means you are right. For one thing, the truth of your claim then becomes subjective to the person you are making it to. It is right as long as they don't have the tools to prove you wrong? Truth is not subjective. If you think truth is subjective, you're dealing with a different version of truth than us, one that has no bearing on reality.
For anyone who regularly uses this argument, please learn that it is fallacious and demonstrates nothing other than you have no actual positive argument to back up your claim for which you have the burden of proof. See on my website:
http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!argumen...lity/c1831
All you are "proving" is that you are making unfalisifiable claims. Such claims are always worthless because they rely entirely on the argument from ignorance, and are an admission that you cannot know they are true either. If a claim is unfalisifiable, it's contradictory claim is also unfalisifiable and all you are doing is arbitrarily choosing one position when you have no way of knowing which is true. That is where positive evidence for positions comes in to clear up this guessing game. And just because it may or may not be true, that doesn't mean it's 50/50 or even 1/99.
For one thing, all religions use this exact same argument to "prove" they are true. Yet they can't all be true. Therefor, the argument is invalid. Pretty simple.
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