(May 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: It is easy to write a book that pretends to fulfill prophesies made in another book. I could do it with any text that makes prophesies, and so could you. So that is evidence of nothing.
Additionally, the Bible is known to be in error. For example, the Israelites slavery in Egypt and spending 40 years wandering in the desert are known by archeologists to be false.
Your analysis of the Koran versus the Bible is ridiculous. A committee can lie just as easily as a single man, if that is what they wish to do so. Additionally, you very casually dismiss other ancient texts without giving them the same consideration you give the Bible. In other words, you are just prejudging them. Which is to say, you are prejudiced against them, and prejudiced in favor of the Bible.
For what you say to happen, it wouldn't have been done by a committee, but by individual authors over centuries in time. The conspiracy would have had to have been passed along over a thousand years in time. Hardly possible.
(May 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Who said it was? As you are not inclined to be scientific, it is an irrelevant and hypocritical objection.
Actually, it wasn't hypocritical. I was pointing out that you also use philosophical and abstract reasoning.
(May 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: If the universe always existed, something would not be coming from nothing. Something would always exist. Which is something you must allow to be possible, or God could not always have existed, and would need a beginning as well.
Indeed, the universe always existing fits best with our experience, as we have never witnessed universes being created or destroyed.
That the universe always existed is something that could never be proven by science. Scientifically-speaking it has the same validity as God creating the universe.
(May 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: What is the problem with something expanding into nothing (which is another word for "something that doesn't exist")? If there is nothing other than the universe, then what is there to stop the expansion? There would have to be something in order for the universe to run into anything and be stopped from expanding.
You would have to answer the question of whether or not matter can exist within nothing. How can matter exist in a place that doesn't exist?
(May 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: You are begging the question with that. You assume that your position is the truth, and then you say that anything that leads someone to it is good. And that is also very poor reasoning, as any logician will tell you. A fallacious argument that accidentally has a truthful conclusion is still a fallacious argument and an example of bad reasoning.
With the feelings that Muslims have that Islam is true, does that prove that Islam is true? If not, then feelings do not prove anything. Which means, your feelings that Christianity are true prove nothing whatsoever about the truth or falsehood of Christianity.
The way I meant it was that if someone is led by my evidence to find out that God does exist, that means that my evidence is valid. Also, as far as logic goes, would you consider all findings from quantum science logical? Logic changes with new discoveries.
