Give 'Em Hell, Bernie

[Brian37]

I would vote for him, but he'd never get past primaries.

I don't see him winning the primaries either. Although he could make a difference if the primary race was tight between two front runners like Hillary and Warren, i.e.

My bet's on the Republicans taking the White House and retaining both Houses of Congress in 2016. democrats got clobbered in the mid-terms and they'll get clobbered again in 2016.

Cant win without Koch brother dick sucking corporate whore money can you? Keep reminding yourself that knowing Rove called it for Mittens on Fox and had their own Fox number crunchers said "nope". Think again asshole. The left is waking up, and long term one election will not stop us. The part you miss is fewer and fewer people long term are buying into right wing bigotry or their corporate whore economics.

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You're all wrong.  It is the relationship between the employers and workers that drives the economy, not the influence of either one in particular.

Don't believe me?  See what happens if a factory full of workers just walk off the job.  One worker can be replaced, because their skilled coworkers can pick up the slack, and help the new people during training.  But a whole system-- no.

Same thing for management.  You could fire any CEO, and replace him/her with someone else, and the company would still run.  But you fire all of management and execute the visionary who started the company, and you're likely to see a sinking ship.

Agreed, but factories can be operated without bosses and without absentee owners (plenty of employee owned firms & worker cooperatives operating this way right now), but I suppose factories could be automated to the point where you barely need any workers (so the opposite is also true).

But, if all we have is an automated economy with no workers, who will buy the products? 

I have no problem with innovation making work easier, it is why we now drive modern cars and don't rely on horse and buggies. But every time you take a job and replace it with a machine, someone loses a job. And the more automated a system is you still are going to have humans who need to pay their bills. You cannot simply keep taking humans out of the picture without thinking long term about how a newer labor force will survive. 

I hate the cliche "hard work" bullshit, if business owners wanted to "work hard" they wouldn't own businesses. A better term is "productivity", not the amount of sweat one makes at work. If life was all about work being hard we never would invent things to make our lives easier.

Humans still are not tools, and they should not be treated as tools or mere numbers at a desk 5 states away.