RE: Evidence God Exists
September 16, 2010 at 3:09 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2010 at 3:10 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(September 12, 2010 at 10:55 am)Watson Wrote: Then that would be my mistake, Xenu is not a god at all. He's just a science fiction story.And the bible isn't a fantasy?
(September 16, 2010 at 2:29 am)AngelThMan Wrote: When I said that I felt the presence of God, this was a blanket statement for several situations. It's not like I was standing on some beautiful mountain with dawn's golden sun and suddenly God's presence hit me. It's nothing corny like that. You asked me a question and I answered it as simply as I could.It sounds to me like you've picked and choose particularly 'miraculous' situations in which to derieve this 'proof.' I think it ignores the thousands if not millions of times where similar situations such as these ended in disaster regardless of the faith or lack thereof of all involved.
But I have felt God was with me in several situations, especially when I've been in some trouble and I have prayed. How do I know it was God that I felt? I will answer you. I've confirmed that it was indeed God not only through my own experiences, but through the experiences of others. I'll give you some examples...
A few weeks ago my sister, her husband, her son and a pastor were traveling through a remote mountain. It started to rain and their car slid. It fell off a cliff and spun three times. All in the car were devout Christians, and they all prayed as the car spun down the cliff. All survived with no injuries.
I was watching Aftermath with William Shatner, and Jessica Lynch was his guest. In Iraq, she was in a Humvee with 11 other people when she got ambushed. During the skirmish, she was the only one that prayed for God to spare her life, and she was the only one out of 12 to survive.
A woman at my mother's church received a terrible back injury and was unable to walk. CAT scans revealed that disks were misaligned, and she could only walk with surgery. The entire church prayed for her, and the woman's condition improved greatly. She was able to walk, and surgery was no longer needed.
I don't know about you guys, but I can't ignore things like these. I haven't experienced anything as severe as the examples above, but I've been in situations in which I have felt that my prayers have made a difference. And that's how I know it was God.
Or, more importantly, the similar situations where the survivors or perpetraitors or whatever prayed to a different god or were atheists or agnostic.
(September 16, 2010 at 11:38 am)Watson Wrote: @leo-rcc: Maybe that is because your knowledge and udnerstanding of what a soul is supposed to be is severely lacking as of now? As opposed to a soul itself being ill defined.It would help it there were an actual definition for a soul that remained the same between individuals. Like most religious artifacts and beliefs - they seem to change from person to person or, at best, from faith to faith.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan