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French government bans burqas.
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RE: French government bans burqas.
(September 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm)Ashendant Wrote: No but people already used it to successfully escape the police, and it gives the ability to escape identity checks
I understand this point. What I don't understand is why you think that criminals who use these methods to escape the police will start listening to a new law that prohibits them from using these methods. Criminals don't tend to listen to the law. This line of reasoning is simply irrational.

There are other ways of performing identity checks. Fingerprints / IRIS scans, etc. These are all non-invasive and respectful to religions.

Quote:But Belts are an active tool of oppression, the burka is passive, as for the rest the next point should clarify.
So...you want to ban passive forms of oppression, but not active? Wha...

You simply ignored theVOID's point, which was that *MOST* muslim women *WANT* to wear the burka. They aren't being forced; they aren't being oppressed; they just want to follow their religion. Just because you see their religious beliefs as oppressive doesn't give you the right to outlaw them. They don't see them as oppressive, and as far as I am concerned, if they want to wear their religious clothing, I have no problems with it.

Quote:The point is because it's their religion they get more rights than other people? am I not allowed to wear something to cover my face if I want because it obstructs police, but they are allowed because "It's my religionSad", it's idiotic like that Muslim father that was allowed to beat his daughter in Italy because "It's my religionSad" or that guy that was allowed to marry two women because "It's my religionSad" while the rest has to "deal with it"
No, their religion doesn't get more rights than other people. You should be allowed to cover your face. I am against all forms of clothing prohibition.

As for your points to beating daughters; this isn't a fair comparison. Beating a daughter is invasive of her civil rights (i.e., the right not to be beaten). Unless she requested the beating, the father is breaking the law. Wearing a burka should only be against the law if the woman is being forced into wearing it. Otherwise, it should be fine.

Similarly with marrying two women. If everyone in the group is fine with it, there shouldn't be a problem legally. It is only if the man is forcing a woman to marry him that it should ever come up as a legal issue.
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French government bans burqas. - by lrh9 - September 14, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Watson - September 14, 2010 at 11:56 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 12:01 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by AtheistPhil - September 15, 2010 at 1:55 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by lrh9 - September 16, 2010 at 2:21 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Watson - September 15, 2010 at 12:04 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 12:05 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Minimalist - September 15, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Welsh cake - September 15, 2010 at 6:54 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by theVOID - September 15, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 9:42 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 7:17 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 7:56 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by downbeatplumb - September 15, 2010 at 1:53 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Tiberius - September 15, 2010 at 4:16 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Ashendant - September 15, 2010 at 6:30 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by theVOID - September 15, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Ashendant - September 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Tiberius - September 17, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Ashendant - September 17, 2010 at 7:43 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Tiberius - September 17, 2010 at 8:14 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Ashendant - September 17, 2010 at 9:44 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Tiberius - September 26, 2010 at 9:22 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Ashendant - September 26, 2010 at 9:43 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Existentialist - September 15, 2010 at 6:58 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by theVOID - September 15, 2010 at 7:12 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Existentialist - September 15, 2010 at 7:25 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Entropist - September 16, 2010 at 3:02 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by theVOID - September 15, 2010 at 7:30 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by Existentialist - September 15, 2010 at 7:31 pm
RE: French government bans burqas. - by krazedkat - September 16, 2010 at 9:17 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by ib.me.ub - September 26, 2010 at 9:38 am
RE: French government bans burqas. - by ib.me.ub - September 26, 2010 at 10:01 am

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