RE: The connection between Catholic priests and Muhammadan pedo gangs?
May 16, 2015 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2015 at 11:52 am by Pyrrho.)
(May 16, 2015 at 3:41 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: A difference I can think of between slave owners and Muhammad is that some may not have seen their (ethnically African in origin) slaves as human. I suspect that was part of their justification for treating them as they did. True, the Quran says the Jews were turned into non-human animals by Allah, but I don't think he ever justified his actions by saying anybody was not human (Muhammad visited Ethiopia if I remember rightly and go on alright with the locals). As far as I'm aware, the age of sexual maturity has always been around seventeen and it's the fact that God made childbirth so dangerous that brought down average life expectancy.
Things get quite complicated. Thomas Jefferson tried to get slavery outlawed as part of the beginning of the United Stated (though he failed to convince enough others for that to happen), yet he himself owned slaves. He did not free them, ever.
I think this can be explained (please note, an explanation is not the same as a justification), but this is not the right thread for this topic.
(May 16, 2015 at 2:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(May 15, 2015 at 12:50 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: What is boils down to is people don't want to accept that Muhammad was immoral. And (most) Muhammadans agree pedophilia is wrong. So they come up with all sorts of crazy arguments to try and excuse Muhammad.
Just remember that American slave owners didn't observe any lower age limit and that the age of consent was seven (7) in Delaware as recently as 1895. So there was no real difference between what Mohammed did in 620 and what the average American male did as recently as 120 years ago. Maybe George Washington was a pedophile since he had a lot of slaves and we know what Thomas Jefferson did.
No. That something was legal does not mean that the average person did it.
However, you are right about the broader point, that Muhammad's actions in this regard were not exclusive to him, or to Muslim culture, nor was it confined to his era. In the history of the world, his actions on this matter are not rare.
Attitudes do change over time, and they vary from place to place. Whether they should or not is another matter, best left to another thread.
This thread is, I think, supposed to be about the relationship between sexual repression and pedophilia.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
