(September 17, 2010 at 7:43 am)Ashendant Wrote: Not when people are running away from the police, that's the point of criminals using the burka.Do you honestly believe that passing a law that bans burkas will prevent criminals from using them? Honestly?
Quote:The point of passive and active was that one is used for passive oppression and that was the objective of the object, while belts objectives is to hold pants up and not beat people.Right, but burkas are also used as clothing too. In fact (repeating myself...yay!) *most* muslim women *want* to wear the burka. It isn't oppressive if you are doing it to yourself. It is oppressive if someone else is forcing you to do it.
Quote:The problem is that we're not allowed to cover our faces but these religious people are because "it's my religion", but if an atheist wanted to marry two women and they wanted it, the germans wouldn't allow it because it was not his religion and they would say "deal with it"...and I fully agree with you. This is why I am against any item of clothing being banned, and why I think people should be allowed to cover their faces in public. Instead of rallying for the banning of clothing, we should be rallying for the right of *everyone* to cover up; same with laws regarding marriage. I don't see what business the state has in marriage; nor do I see what business the state has in what we wear. As long as nobody is infringing on another person's civil rights, there shouldn't be any government action taken.
Quote:The law saysAgain, these aren't religious rights; they should be the rights of everyone. You are again ignoring my main point; which is that criminals don't give two fucks about the law. No law is going to prevent a criminal from using a burka to hide their appearance.
‘Forbidding the Dissimulation of the Face in the Public Space’
These are clearly for security purposes, and i prefer to have a secure country than one that crime can avoid the police because of political-correct religious rights
Think about it for a minute. Criminals don't want to get caught, and the best way of getting caught is to cover up your face so you can't be identified easily. If a law is passed that bans such an act, will a criminal think "Oh...I'd better not cover up my face whilst I rob this bank, now it's illegal to do so."? No. The criminal operates under the belief that they are going to get away, and anything that helps that belief become a reality will be used by them, whether that involves having a get-away car, using an illegal firearm, or covering up their face.
Laws won't change that. Laws only work on the people who are willing to obey them. Criminals don't come under that category.