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Another "I saw Jesus" claim
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RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim
(May 16, 2015 at 6:45 pm)Kitan Wrote:
(May 16, 2015 at 6:43 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: What facts do you have that enable you to reach your conclusion?

I am naturally going to be skeptical when the individual in question makes a hearsay claim with no evidence to support stated claim.  To blindly believe in the claim is to be utterly ignorant.  

Of course. I didn't say you should believe the claim. I don't believe the claim.

But you haven't withheld judgment while you gather more information. You have already concluded the matter without looking into it at all.

If someone had said that they discovered a warm-blooded fish, would you believe them? Or would you dismiss the claim without investigating simply because everyone knows that fish are cold-blooded?

(May 16, 2015 at 6:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 16, 2015 at 6:43 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I'm just as skeptical about this story as anyone here, but just out of curiosity, all of you (presumably) rely on science to provide all the answers, so how is it that you are able to rush to judgment concerning this claim without the benefit of actually researching it carefully?

What facts do you have that enable you to reach your conclusion?

Because there are optional explanations that don't rely on the supernatural.  While it is certainly possible that this young man saw Jesus, it is also possible that he saw the results of oxygen deprivation, or images caused by his brain misfiring during its attempt to shut down.

When confronted with a natural phenomenon (hallucination), natural explanations are always preferable to supernatural ones.  One of your co-religionists sorted this out some seven centuries ago.

Boru

I'm actually a descendant of Brian Boru...king of Ireland in the 9th or 10th century...something like that, I think.

Anyway, yes I agree with you. Including the part where you noted that it is possible that he saw Jesus. 

I personally think its unlikely, but it's nice to hear from someone who is open to supernatural possibilities.  Clap
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Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Foxaèr - May 16, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 16, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Longhorn - May 16, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 16, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by dyresand - May 16, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 16, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 16, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Foxaèr - May 16, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 16, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Longhorn - May 16, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 16, 2015 at 6:51 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 16, 2015 at 6:54 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Ravenshire - May 17, 2015 at 1:18 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 17, 2015 at 1:27 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 17, 2015 at 3:06 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 17, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 16, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Nope - May 16, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by robvalue - May 17, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 17, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 17, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Ravenshire - May 17, 2015 at 4:11 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 17, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Foxaèr - May 17, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 17, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 17, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Foxaèr - May 17, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 17, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Longhorn - May 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 17, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 17, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 17, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by dyresand - May 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 17, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 17, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Brakeman - May 22, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by dyresand - May 17, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 17, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 18, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 19, 2015 at 8:45 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 19, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 17, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 17, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Brian37 - May 17, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Foxaèr - May 19, 2015 at 12:12 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 19, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 19, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 19, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 20, 2015 at 1:52 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 1:55 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 22, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 19, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by abaris - May 19, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 19, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 12:09 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 20, 2015 at 12:39 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 1:38 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 20, 2015 at 2:19 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 2:32 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 20, 2015 at 2:41 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 19, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 20, 2015 at 12:29 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 20, 2015 at 1:39 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 1:39 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 20, 2015 at 2:32 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 2:38 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 20, 2015 at 2:50 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 20, 2015 at 7:17 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 20, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 21, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 23, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Mudhammam - May 23, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 23, 2015 at 11:48 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by robvalue - May 20, 2015 at 2:47 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Spooky - May 21, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Cyberman - May 21, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by RobbyPants - May 22, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by VeggieDog - May 22, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by RobbyPants - May 22, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Randy Carson - May 23, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by Minimalist - May 22, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Another "I saw Jesus" claim - by KevinM1 - May 22, 2015 at 3:13 pm

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