RE: Present a BETTER worldview
September 18, 2010 at 3:12 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2010 at 3:26 am by blood_pardon.)
Hey theVoid,
Thanx for taking the time to reply I know its time consumming.
If God exists then it does answer the question, but you do have a good point.
http://www.reasons.org/fine-tuning-life-universe
Again M-theory is not a BETTER explanation.
1. Calculated by experts not just randomly made up
2. Your right on this point
3. You have yet to provide a better explanation....
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OK. Let me rephrase that:
It was either
1. Physical Neccesity
2. Chance
3. Design
This is another failure. Abiogenesis is a failed hypothesis.
1. DNA
2. Our abiltiy to speak (superior to all other animals)
3. Human self conciousness
4. Morals
Thanx for taking the time to reply I know its time consumming.
theVoid Wrote:Answer: We don't know, and also supposing God does not answer this question, for it could simply be rephrased "why does God (a mind) exist rather than nothing?"
If God exists then it does answer the question, but you do have a good point.
Quote:If you mean better as in "has the ability to explain the existence of the "fine-tuned" initial conditions and constants" then M-theory and the white-hole hypothesis are just as efficient, why? Becuase they both posit an infinite number of scenarios and this by definition allows an explanation for everything.The point of this thread was for you to provide a BETTER explanation than God. These claims are just as extrodinary and lack just as much scientific evidence.
Quote:Fristly, where are you getting the 120 from? Including the constants and the initial conditions there are 11 potential variables that need to be withthin a marignal range of their observed attributes for life to exist in this universe.Here is a list of 93 constants requred for life:
Secondly, M-Theory and the White Hole hypothesis both provide mechanism for this to happen
http://www.reasons.org/fine-tuning-life-universe
Again M-theory is not a BETTER explanation.
Quote: As it pertains to the existence of life we can assign probabilities to the occurance of life permitting systems by extrapolating the physical laws taking into account the frequency of systems like ours in the observable universeCan you prove there is even a single planet capable of permiting life?
Quote:Firstly, your math is based on made-up numbers.
Secondly, If you actually knew that the multiverse proposed an infinite number of realities and understood this implication you would not be suggesting that this reality cannot be one of an infinite number...
Thirdly, no the multiverse does not disprove God, so what? We do not believe in God because he can be disproved, we don't believe in him because there is no evidence for his existence nor any logical necessity requiring it.
1. Calculated by experts not just randomly made up
2. Your right on this point
3. You have yet to provide a better explanation....
Quote:Stupid statement of the day award!
This is such an honor, I want to thank my mom and dad, my wife, my kids, Warner Bros. Studio....
OK. Let me rephrase that:
It was either
1. Physical Neccesity
2. Chance
3. Design
Quote:You don't understand the law of averages do you? Given the masive number of instances of such systems, finding any one that displays any particular number of attributes simultaneously is not dificult to concieve of.You can concieve until the cows come home, but lets say you do find one that is capable of sustaining life. Where did this life come from?
Welsh Cake Wrote:Big BangThis is a non answer. The BB only provides evidence that the universe had a begining which is consistent with what the bible says about creation ex nihilio.
Quote:So needless to say you've already done the research required and are simply disappointed God's not one of them?lol nice
Quote:At any rate a secondary education level science textbook that covers the basics to organic reactions is all you need to understanding the fundamentals involved in biochemistry, if you're referring to Abiogenesis...
This is another failure. Abiogenesis is a failed hypothesis.
Quote:This... is nonsensical. What do you mean by "x number of attempts" exactly? By life permitting universe I'm assuming you mean the potential for life in the universe? Regardless of how improbable it is?It's best to just do away with these "technical numbers" and just say its so UNLIKELY its impossible.
Quote:Please phrase the question in a form that is sensible and legitimate.Do you have a better explanation for:
1. DNA
2. Our abiltiy to speak (superior to all other animals)
3. Human self conciousness
4. Morals