RE: Please correct me where I am wrong
May 20, 2015 at 1:24 am
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2015 at 1:34 am by robvalue.)
It would really help if you could start identifying specific things people have said and why they are a logical fallacy. Just saying atheists keep making logical fallacies and such is just a vague way of saying we're "just as irrational as theists", which is in itself an example of the tu quoque fallacy.
I'm happy to address any criticism to anything I say. If I've been guilty of a fallacy, I want to know about it.
As for WLC, he is a professional con man. He is very good at it, I'll give you that. You are welcome to bring me anything he has said that you think is a good point, and I'll see if I can deconstruct it. He is blatantly dishonest to the core. This isn't ad hominem because I'm happy to back it up against any argument and to point out the dishonesty. Apologetics is dishonesty, I'm sad to say. It's a matter of hiding the dishonesty somewhere, wrapping it up to make it less obvious, and then muddying the waters so much that people can't figure out what to object to. For example, WLC uses the technique of arguing for a deistic God, then just shoving in the God of the bible without justification as if they are the same thing.
Personally, it appears that whatever "I" am, I am experiencing something. I make as few pragmatic assumptions as possible about the reality I appear to be in, and I can't justify them any further than saying I'd be paralysed without them, and they have been shown to be reliable. Everything else I try to base only on these assumptions, and where I've made further ones, I try and incorporate a confidence rating into what I'm saying. I would never claim I can't be wrong.
I'm happy to address any criticism to anything I say. If I've been guilty of a fallacy, I want to know about it.
As for WLC, he is a professional con man. He is very good at it, I'll give you that. You are welcome to bring me anything he has said that you think is a good point, and I'll see if I can deconstruct it. He is blatantly dishonest to the core. This isn't ad hominem because I'm happy to back it up against any argument and to point out the dishonesty. Apologetics is dishonesty, I'm sad to say. It's a matter of hiding the dishonesty somewhere, wrapping it up to make it less obvious, and then muddying the waters so much that people can't figure out what to object to. For example, WLC uses the technique of arguing for a deistic God, then just shoving in the God of the bible without justification as if they are the same thing.
Personally, it appears that whatever "I" am, I am experiencing something. I make as few pragmatic assumptions as possible about the reality I appear to be in, and I can't justify them any further than saying I'd be paralysed without them, and they have been shown to be reliable. Everything else I try to base only on these assumptions, and where I've made further ones, I try and incorporate a confidence rating into what I'm saying. I would never claim I can't be wrong.
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