RE: Hello, Anyone interested in a debate?
May 22, 2015 at 11:05 am
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2015 at 11:09 am by Anima.)
(May 22, 2015 at 10:43 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 22, 2015 at 10:32 am)Anima Wrote: So if a more than a billion people say something is correct is it not thereby determined as ethically correct under utilitarianism even if it is not necessarily morally correct? I am going to have to give that some thought.
How can something be ethically correct but not morally correct? It seems the two are synonymous.
I will try to keep this simple.
There is the Natural Law, the Ethical Law, and the Moral Law.
The Natural law as the natural laws governing the physics of what things are and how they interact with one another. Under the natural law what is done is what CAN be done and nothing can be done which violates the natural law.
The Ethical law is a restriction upon the Natural law in order to facilitate social interaction among humans (and is there by regionally determined). Under the ethical law what is done is what is socially acceptable (where socially acceptable is determined by argumentum ad numerum of the given society).
The Moral law is a further restriction upon the ethical law where by the Subject (our person) opts to constrain their conduct beyond what is just socially acceptable (for reasons that may extended beyond the self but are rooted in the self). Under the ethical law what is done is what is determined as acceptable by the individual.
For example:
Under the natural law the rule is survival of the fittest. If I can kill it than I am allowed to kill it.
Under the ethical law the rule is what is best for the society. I can kill it if everyone is okay with it.
Under the moral law the rules is what I am okay with. I can kill it if I am okay with it.
I hope that explanation helps.
(May 22, 2015 at 11:01 am)pocaracas Wrote: As requested, thread moved to the Philosophy forum.
Thank you.
(May 22, 2015 at 11:05 am)Anima Wrote:(May 22, 2015 at 10:43 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: How can something be ethically correct but not morally correct? It seems the two are synonymous.
I will try to keep this simple.
There is the Natural Law, the Ethical Law, and the Moral Law.
The Natural law as the natural laws governing the physics of what things are and how they interact with one another. Under the natural law what is done is what CAN be done and nothing can be done which violates the natural law.
The Ethical law is a restriction upon the Natural law in order to facilitate social interaction among humans (and is there by regionally determined). Under the ethical law what is done is what is socially acceptable (where socially acceptable is determined by argumentum ad numerum of the given society).
The Moral law is a further restriction upon the ethical law where by the Subject (our person) opts to constrain their conduct beyond what is just socially acceptable (for reasons that may extended beyond the self but are rooted in the self). Under the ethical law what is done is what is determined as acceptable by the individual.
For example:
Under the natural law the rule is survival of the fittest. If I can kill it than I am allowed to kill it.
Under the ethical law the rule is what is best for the society. I can kill it if everyone is okay with it.
Under the moral law the rules is what I am okay with. I can kill it if I am okay with it.
I hope that explanation helps.
It may be further said the statement, "God made man in his own image"
Is in reference to the ability of mankind (as God) to restrain himself beyond the natural law and the ethical law to the degree of the moral law. Since it may easily be argued that God is the most willfully constrained being in all of existence (if he does in fact exist).