(May 22, 2015 at 1:49 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Well remember, Doran is a calculating pansy. He might send Jaime back just to avoid a war. They really haven't hit too hard on that part of Doran's personality, this might be how they show it. In the books, he locks up all his nieces in order to avoid war, and he the whole thing with Arianne.
That does sound likely, although I think it would go beyond any pansy-ish tendencies we've seen in the book, to send him back would be passing up a golden opportunity the Lannister's have handed them, and keeping Jaime as a hostage could be a good way of preventing war
(May 22, 2015 at 6:50 am)Iroscato Wrote: As long as it remains the best TV show of all time - and in my opinion it still is - I couldn't care less how closely it follows the books. They'll still retain the basic elements and draw from GRRM's plans to a certain degree, much as how the MCU takes elements and amalgamates them into the movies, but doesn't strictly follow them.
I agree, it doesn't really matter how faithful the series is to the books so long as it's still good, but some of the recent deviations from the books haven't looked too promising. I'm just worried that in going away from the books they could fall into some of the traps of writing a tv show, sensationalist attention grabbing, contrived cliff-hangers, reluctance to kill off fan favourites despite that being one of the reasons GoT is so popular. With a book you can afford a slow, natural build to a rewarding conclusion at the end - with a tv series you have to be constantly focused on ratings from week to week. Although there have been great tv shows in the past that haven't fallen into those traps I listed above, The Sopranos, The Wire and Mad Men come to mind
(May 22, 2015 at 10:43 am)Iroscato Wrote: The most disturbing aspect of the show has to be for me Ramsay's slow breaking down of Theon into Reek. There's something about a human being being gradually ground down and transformed into something else that I find utterly disturbing. Did it stop me watching? Nope, if anything it gives a whole new layer of morbid fascination to the show. Part of the reason I enjoy GoT is its totally unflinching portrayal of the world which it exists in - most of the people are bastards (a few quite literally) and really bad, really fucked up shit happens. If people can't handle it, fair enough.
Definitely, I found myself strangely looking forward to and dreading scenes between Ramsay and Reek. I think it's a similar sort of morbid curiosity to wanting to see the face of that woman who got her face ripped off by her pet chimp be unveiled - it's quite disturbing to think I have that capacity, to on some level want to see things like that
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