RE: [split] Big Announcement and Invitation
May 24, 2015 at 9:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2015 at 9:13 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Parker-
I have not defended the priests who were guilty in any way. Instead, I said they should be prosecuted and those bishops who protected them should be retired. This is a fact that is easily verifiable from my posts.
No. What you've done is pointed at others in an attempt to avoid addressing the fact that the church you support protects molesters. By the attempted deflection, you seek to defend it.
(May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I have pointed out that the percentage of homosexual priests who preyed on young people is far lower than the percentage of school teachers who do the same thing. That is not a defense; it is a fact. But you don't want to stop to consider that the number of homosexuals who prey on children is LOWER in the priesthood than in the general population, do you?
Why are you bringing up teachers? We're talking about the perverts you are financially and spiritually supporting.
Oh, that's right: you're bringing up teachers because you don't want to accept responsibility for your rotten tree, which bears rotten fruit, which you yourself assist in nurturing.
(May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Why is that, Parker? If the facts reveal that Catholic priests are LESS likely to abuse children than the guy living down the street from you
No, it doesn't, because you'd have to know the criminal demongraphics of my neighborhood in order to compare your criminals to the ones here.
But -- I'm not defending the criminals here.
(May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: that just screws your whole "why I hate the Catholic Church thing", doesn't it? And instead of being able to claim that Christianity "generates" perverts, you may have to consider that Christianity heals them. And that spoils all your fun.
Are you kidding? The fact is, the most of the teachers who despoil children also claim Christianity as their faith, here in America. The most of the prisoners, for all crimes, here in America, claim Christianity as their faith.
If Christianity heals child molesters, why are there pervert priests?
(May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: But here's a fun alternative for you: the Catechism of the Catholic Church is available online with a great search tool here: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
See if you can find anything in the Catechism which encourages pedophilia or homosexuality. Either show where the teaching of the Catholic Church "generates" perverts or admit that it does not.
See, anyone conversant in the English language would have already understood that I didn't claim that. I did not say that the teaching generated the immorality. My point here, which you are dodging with exceptional alacrity, is that if morality is sourced in your god, why do not his preachers exemplify the moral life? Why do they molest children, embezzle donations, and encourage Africans to die from AIDS by promulgating lies about safe sex?
Now, you can dodge the question again, or you can answer it, but believe me, your integrity is on display. It is yours to keep or lose. Answer my question.
(May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Oh, and one other answer you won't find: the Church does not teach that anyone is in hell.
I did not say it did, dumbass. Would you kindly quit positing strawmen?
(May 19, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Your argument that God is guilty of murder is ludicrous.
You should perhaps read both what I wrote, and also your own alleged holy book:
Quote:22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
Clearly your mythology describes your god as denying eternal life to men, and that, you know, means that folks gotta die. Now, I had thought you were smart enough to figure that out, but it looks like I was wrong about you.
So the next time you're having a problem understanding what I'm saying, just ask me, and I'll be happy to help you. Because if you continue being a dillrod, you will receive this sort of treatment.