Hello, Anyone interested in a debate?

[Anima]

Are you actually saying your God is imaginary?

I think this is always the case, but I've never heard anyone come out and say it.

I have no qualms referring to god as imaginary when speaking to those who already believe him to be so. "If one wishes to convince the masses, they must first convince them they wear the same fetters" (Voltaire)

I do not hold that god is actually imaginary any more than a person or black holes are imaginary. While I agree with the rest that there is not sufficient direct explicit empirical proof of person, black holes, or God's existence.

I am compelled to say this level of proof is untenable and exclusive of all knowledge including that of self and scientific, as well as God. (Both Descartes and Kant ran into this same particular problem) In essence by this level of proof you win the battle but you lose the war.

However, given a level of proof of circumstantial implicit empirical evidence (as demanded by the Scientific Method) the knowledge of self, science, and god may be shown as having sufficient proof to assign existence. Furthermore, man aspects of science are predicated upon theological thought (which is why many scientific discoveries and theories come from the Church).

As a realist I am forced to state that the existence of God is not contingent upon my knowledge or belief of it any more than the existence of each one of you was dependent upon my knowledge or belief.