RE: Hello, Anyone interested in a debate?
May 28, 2015 at 11:40 am
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2015 at 11:50 am by Jenny A.)
(May 27, 2015 at 11:28 am)Anima Wrote:(May 27, 2015 at 11:11 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Well nobody's given a conclusive definition (I won't even say evidence) of either.
As written by me:
(In the following sections we will be making constant reference to a Supreme Being. We must make note at this moment that there are five different manifestations of the Supreme Being which people tend to mix ad nauseam without any regard for the definitions. Those being the following: Summum Bonum (philosophical), Summum Cerebrum (theological), Summum Malum (biblical), Summum Nihilum (atheistical), and the Summum Summa (universal). It is to be noted that we are not saying there are five supreme beings. Rather we are saying that the Supreme Being which is the Summum Summa is represented to humanity in four ways.
The Summum Bonum is the philosophical representation of the Supreme Being in which the partial conditions of humanity are extended to their maxims. Mortality becomes immortality, conscience become omniscience, presents become omnipresence, mutability becomes immutability, potency becomes omnipotence, accident becomes essence, and particular becomes universal. The Summum Bonum is the representation of the Supreme Being derived by reason alone.
The Summum Cerebrum is the theological representation of the Supreme Being based on a dialectic discursive understanding of the Supreme Being which utilizes biblical reference of the Supreme Being in relation to the deductive ability of human logic and understanding. The Summum Cerebrum may be said to be the anthropomorphism of the Supreme Being who tends to make judgments and operate according to some plan which may be extrapolated but cannot be affirmed.
The Summum Malum is the biblical representation of the Supreme Being in which the ends justify the means. The biblical representation may and often takes upon itself actions which are obviously termed bad for what is believed to be a greater purpose and tends to be far more reactive than active. The Summum Malum does not tend to restrain itself but indulges to utilize actions to fulfill a plan which cannot be determined beyond the statement, “That is what he wants.”
The Summum Nihilum is the atheistical representation of the Supreme Being in which the Supreme Being is not recognized as an actual entity. It is required as a literary object to which negation may be applied so that denial of its existence may be made. So the Supreme Being is only a being in name in order to make denial of it as a being in being.
Finally as previously expressed the Summum Summa is the actual Supreme Being from which all other versions are merely a representation of our reason (Summum Bonum), our understanding (Summum Cerebrum), our belief (Summum Malum), or our disbelief (Summum Nihilum).
These are all just suggestions for what to call a supreme being depending upon who is talking about it. None of them actually define what is meant by a supreme being generally. It's as if you defined elephant as
elephant biological: a real animal studied by biologists.
elephant domestic: a real animal domesticated and used for labor.
elephant foreign: a real animal as imagined by those who've never seen one.
elephant mythic: a real animal as re-imagined by Disney.
None of which would give you the slightest notion what an elephant is as opposed to a horse, a cow, or a steamboat; it says only that different people might think about elephants in different ways. Nor are these things are manifestations of an elephant. They are concepts of elephants held by people. Which is all you have really said about a supreme being--different people define supreme being differently.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.