Hello, Anyone interested in a debate?

[Anima]

I am not saying that it is invalid because it is old, I am saying it is not the be-all and end-all that Catholics seem to believe.  There have been many more thinkers since them.

That is correct. There have been many more thinkers since then, but quantity is poor substitute for quality

Generally Catholic's utilize the logic of Aristotle and Aquinas for the same reason the scientific fields utilize the Aristotelian Scientific Method for the very reasons argued at length in this particular post string.

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Two thoughts: One, nothing in what you just said proves, or even implies, that a being exists at either end of that spectrum. That's what we want out of a chain of logic; a method by which we can determine the existence of the entity under discussion, not just a laundry list of his traits.

I believe the question here was what train of logic leads to the god of philosophy. To which I present summary (for greater detail you may read the works of Plato and Aristotle) showing it was achieved by mean of logical extension (reducto ad absurdia, which is not a logical fallacy). I was not attempting to present this vaulted "proof" many Atheists desire.

None of which would give you the slightest notion what an elephant is as opposed to a horse, a cow, or a steamboat; it says only that different people might think about elephants in different ways.  Nor are these things are manifestations of an elephant.  They are concepts of elephants held by people.  Which is all you have really said about a supreme being--different people define supreme being differently.  

Not quite. What is stated in the posts is the name, definition applied, and an example:

The Summum Bonum is the philosophical representation of the Supreme Being in which the partial conditions of humanity are extended to their maxims. Mortality becomes immortality, conscience become omniscience, presents become omnipresence, mutability becomes immutability, potency becomes omnipotence, accident becomes essence, and particular becomes universal. The Summum Bonum is the representation of the Supreme Being derived by reason alone.

Name = Summum Bonum
Definition = The phiolosphical representation of the Supreme Being in which the partial conditions of humanity are extended to their maxims.
Example = Mortality become immortality, conscience become omniscience...

This is what is meant when philosophers refer to the Summum Bonum.

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anima, your debate has many levels and rows.  We can "brake" our answers down to "logic", "emotional needs", and philosophical to put a stop to piles of bullshit.

Philosophical means we are allowed to make up any bs we want.  Whatever we start with (the if's) leads us down the a path that is only as valid as the starting "if's".  and even whatever knows the amount of bullshit we can self justify with is unlimited.

"Emotional".  there are a lot of people emotionally attached to "no-nothing", "anti-whatever", and "Omni dude".  Until we dig down and find the cause of the emotional attachment to the belief we can't really understand it.  And most people won't tell us the initial event that caused the "hatred" in them.  And I haven't seen "deep hate" not associated with personal events or mental illness.   Most times people convolute their feelings into reality for all.  An example of this is people's takes on "unions" or 'ceo's".  Logically its simple, emotionally it a hole nuttier ball of wax.

"logically": this involve some formal training and an understanding of one's self.  It really is for people that don't care as long as we find out what is going on.  That eliminates most, not all, but most of the people.  Call it "60% most" if-en ya need to think we immune.  

And Don't bite into the "if you don't believe one thing stated in a stance that the whole stance is wrong.  I don't agree with all the stupid rules in the usa.  I am still an American.  This atheist site is a cesspool of anti-theist.  so any objective analysis is utterly ignored if it even hints that theist may have a point.   Although I must admit, I see some rational atheist showing up, that's nice.

I am not sure what you are trying to say. So...Thanks?