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Poll: What is "will" to you?
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Radically free in the full blooded libertarian sense.
0%
0 0%
Free but inescapably (and thankfully) constrained.
17.65%
3 17.65%
Compulsory. Nothing gets willed unless I get off my lazy ass.
5.88%
1 5.88%
Free when not impeded by the will of another or circumstances beyond my feeble powers.
11.76%
2 11.76%
"Will" is an illusion of the mind, a concept believed by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
23.53%
4 23.53%
Will is epiphenomenal, a byproduct of useful processes of the brain.
23.53%
4 23.53%
Other please explain unless the repeated call to so causes nausea. Check with your doctor to see if your constitution is strong enough for this debate.
17.65%
3 17.65%
Total 17 vote(s) 100%
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Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
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RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
At any given moment, any of us could get up and drop our next deuce on the floor. I'm confident that most of us won't for a myriad of reasons. My problem with the determinist position is that the existence of toilets and the practice of putting shit where we usually do is all due to sequential particle interactions set in motion in the very young universe.

The problem arises when someone drops a turd on the floor after 40 years of using a toilet. A determinist must then assert that this behavior was also unavoidable because of a 13B year old chain of particle interaction. I am okay with counterintuitive conclusions; however, determinism lacks demonstration. Also, if everything is determined then the claim is un falsifiable.

Despite claiming a scientific basis by pointing to our increasing knowledge of QM, determinists cannot connect the dots to mind meaning it's pure speculation. For me, the position has only a moderately more stable foundation than the claim that everything is ordered by an old white dude with a beard in the sky.
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RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'? - by Cato - May 28, 2015 at 9:40 pm

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