(September 22, 2010 at 2:02 am)blood_pardon Wrote: Tell me when is the last time a Buddhist tried to convince you about spiritual things? A jew? Muslim? Hindu? African witch doctor? Maybe at some point in your life someone has (i know there are some muslims here) but 99 percent of the time its a Christian in your life reminding you again and again maybe not directly but their there and you hear it. Over and over again you have heard that you sir are in a desperate condition and NEED a savior. This sir is God trying to get your attention, believe it or not.
So apparently the more annoying someone is, the more you should believe them? Because this is your logic.
Also, I can only recall 2 or 3 times in my entire LIFE of anyone directly coming to me, or someone announcing me, or anyone trying to convince me, etc, that "Christ is the way" and I need to convert to Christianity, etc.
I've had more people convince me of Paganism than I've never had people try to discuss Christianity with me.
It's true that I've interacted and know a lot about Christianity at this point, simply KNOWING about something doesn't make it true, or means you should believe in it on a baseless assumption.
Also, are you forgetting 9/11? The entire world that day, a bunch of nutbags tried to remind us of Islam. That's pretty annoying... Does that mean that I should start praising Allah now? I find destruction and the discussion of the event more bothersome and annoying than any Christian I've encountered. According to your logic, I should just convert now, and start bombing people, and await my virgins, or whatever.
Quote:Coming to the conclusion that God created the universe doesn't solve all mysteries your right. Once you reach this understanding then you can begin to focus on what ACTUALLY MATTERS, like what is God? what has He been doing for all eternity? What's next? How should I live?
I find it hard to believe that your mind tries to focus on what "actually matters" when what you think "actually matters" doesn't exist, is not present, and has no evidence or "evidence" that isn't self-fulfilling that even hints at it, outside of "word of mouth."
Quote:So then you have completley eliminated the possibiltiy of intelligent design even though you have no BETTER explanation.
Are you seriously still on this "BETTER EXPLANATION" bullcrap? I thought we explained to you a few pages ago that your question was answered, and the thought of a "better" explanation, or even an explanation period, doesn't matter.
What is, is. What's been researched, has been researched. What's been discovered, has been discovered.
Your logic is absurd. I'm guessing you're old enough to know how babies are made, correct? At this point in your life, instead of accepting how they're conceived and what the process is, are you seriously suggesting that the explanation of "A stork comes, and leaves a baby in a nice basket on your doorstep" is something you'd accept because it "sounds good?"
How about a seed into a flower? Do you believe that fairies or some other creature transforms the seed, rather than how it actually happens?
This is what you're basically doing:
HOW THE UNIVERSE BEGAN > Here you are > MUST BE GOD!
When it's really
HOW THE UNIVERSE BEGAN > Here you are > I'm here because the universe began.
But for some reason, the very basic principal of it you think needs more of an explanation than you're given, so you simply don't except it. You might as well do this:
HOW THE UNIVERSE BEGAN > Here you are > Ducks sneezed.
Like, what other or "BETTER" explanation do you want, aside from what actually happened?
What makes you think there's suppose to be more?
Why must there even be more, and why must it jump from what it is, to "God."
I like the way you think!
...But please stop thinking, it's not you.
...But please stop thinking, it's not you.