(May 29, 2015 at 4:39 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:I don't care what you believe, or don't believe.(May 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm)ronedee Wrote: Provide ME with demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic to support your claims of NO GOD. If you do, I will be compelled to change my views.
Basic logic fail. You are passing the burden of proof.
I am not making that claim that no gods exist. I have nothing to prove.
I simply disbelieve your claims. And the claims of every other theist.
I have nothing to prove either. I just want to put a dent your armor... so to speak. And you in mine! I'm all ears. I've said from the beginning on this forum; I'm not evangelizing, or preaching. I'm here for someone to tear down my faith. So far, its only been strengthened.
Lets face it.... there isn't much in the way of "proof" for either of us. But existence itself is a more compelling argument for God, than against. If you are NOT claiming God doesn't exist, your argument is worthless. Because, if there is a God.... He makes the rules. Not you. Nor I. A better thing to do is search for reasons, than to sit around arguing and complaining.
As I tried unsuccessfully to point out.... "why" is a better question, than "why not". I mean even Einstein said, "science was nothing without imagination." And he basically theorized relativity from his sofa. It took 3 others to actually prove it years later.
Atheists look at everything based on mans understanding of the universe..... which is logic from a tiny dark box! To quote Thomas Edison, "we don't know one millionth of a percent about anything." For atheists there is no accounting for the vastly superior intelligence of a God who created the universe. That baffles me! Doesn't it make more sense to try and understand God together, than to end every serious debate with a rude joke, or insult? My take on the childish shit is, the only one who is really laughing is the really, really smart guy.
Quis ut Deus?