RE: Do Humans Have Compulsary Will? Which best describes your take on 'will'?
May 30, 2015 at 7:42 am
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2015 at 7:44 am by bennyboy.)
(May 30, 2015 at 7:27 am)Rhythm Wrote:I think you should learn what the word "additional" means. If mind is brain function, then mind does not offer ADDITIONAL advantages over brain function, any more than an orange offers any additional advantages over an orange. If you think that's batshit, then you'll have to explain why.(May 29, 2015 at 7:20 pm)bennyboy Wrote: In a physicalist world view, then yes, I deny that there is any additional utility in your experience over brain function. Unless you do not equate the two?I'm afraid that this "under a physicalist worldview" bit doesn;t save your demonstrably ridiculous claim. Is there someone other than myself that can comment on the utility of my experience...are you such a person? No, there isn't...and no, you aren't. Make the claim for your own mind, if you absolutely must.
Your mind provides you with no additional utility under a physicalist world view (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean...). Mine does, and I'm afraid you'll simply have to accept that. Perhaps something is wrong with your mind, Benny? Do you think it might be the case..rather than there being some difference between my mind and yours.....that you're mistaken? I mean....you have to admit that's a hell of a claim, eh...no additional utility from mind (no matter what worldview one holds, or is true, really)?
This seems to be your MO..make batshit claim, then drive ahead fullspeed -from- that batshit claim ignoring that you consistently fail to demonstrate the truth of the claim. It's hardly surprising that you reach a position where you find inconsistencies and contradictions between your batshit claims and reality.
Here you and I are, our minds are providing us with additional utility (compared to simple processing...I assume you lean on your mind rather than a calculator in order to make decisions...lol). If it turns out that the physicalist world view is accurate....then that additional utility isn't going to vanish in a puff of shitty logic man. Youy go down this roae you hope to establish anything about the utility of mind, but because you feel that it supports your anti physicalist viewpoint. You;re approaching this backwards and you should know that.
As for "simple processing," perhaps you would be so kind as to tell me exactly how complex processing must be before one can say there is a mind associated with it. My definition is that any system which sustains a subjective perspective is experiencing mind. What's yours?
