RE: The ONLY excuse good enough for God?
May 30, 2015 at 10:16 am
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2015 at 10:21 am by Tonus.)
(May 29, 2015 at 3:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: Ignorance may be the only way to heaven, for most.That makes it sound as if god's plan depended on most people accidentally stumbling into the truth. But that doesn't square with the depiction of god in the Bible: he is personally involved in the lives and events of many people, performing miracles and grand and powerful gestures and delivering profound teachings all the time. Why would he suddenly stop and decide to make salvation a spiritual game of Russian Roulette?
Why do so many explanations for god make him seem either ill-prepared, foolish, or very mean?
ronedee Wrote:Lets face it.... there isn't much in the way of "proof" for either of us. But existence itself is a more compelling argument for God, than against.But only because of gaps in our knowledge. Lightning itself used to be a "more compelling argument for God, than against" at one time, due to lack of proof. So was the diversity of life. And any number of other phenomena for which we have explanations that do not require a god, now that we have discovered how they really work or happen. The rational approach is to think that any phenomena for which we do not yet have an explanation will not turn out to be supernatural. The track record is bare in that regards.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould