(June 6, 2015 at 11:12 am)Saxmoof Wrote: You completely haven't answered my question, I can't be bothered explaining it again
That's because your question is dishonest.
(June 6, 2015 at 11:16 am)Dystopia Wrote: Instead of actually refuting source by source I'm going to simplify this for you and ask some simple questions:
- If you have a disparity between one half of the population when it comes to career, jobs and career choices, what other reason is there than discrimination? "Choices"? Choices don't exist, free will doesn't exist, because all humans are conditioned. So, unless you have irrefutable proof that our brains are wired, what reason can there be for 50% of the population to choose low paying jobs? Why aren't people interested in making money? Everyone loves money.
BTW - A problem with those articles is that they forget the average pay gap accounts for everything - So it isn't saying all men make more than women etc it is saying that, if you compare a man and a woman in the same position chances are he will still make more than her even with longer working hours. It isn't comparing female secretaries with male surgeons.
Two additional questions:
- If the wage gap is totally due to choices and not discrimination, why is it that black or non-white women earn, on average, even less?
- If the wage gap is really just due to choices, why is it that even in female dominated fields most positions of authority are occupied by men and men still earn more than women?
Choices do exist. More women go to university than men - what reports have found is that women choose to opt for liberal arts, English and humanities degrees; they don't choose STEM or Math because.....it doesn't interest them as much, sometimes, men and women like different things.
If a woman wants to earn more money, she can do that - but she has to choose the right degree, not a useless liberal arts major.
- Anyway, can you cite me reports which say women make less than men for the same hours and same job?
1. That's mainly due to class; and even then, more black men will most likely opt for dangerous jobs and longer hours
2. Which specific field?
