@Void and skipper
Do you even read what you're quoting? I'll give you Matthew 25:46 is a little difficult to understand. It's very clearly contrasting the finality of destruction and the promise of ressurection. Whatever the punishment is is eternal but it doesn't specify WHAT that punishment is.But no where does it say what will happen during your punishment(in your quoted scriptures). Yes, your punishment is eternal/forever. When you sentence someone to the death penalty it is a permenant solution. When God sentences someone to go to Hell, where your destruction is clearly stated, and the punishment lasts forever you're confounding the how with the where.
Matthew 10:28
If you chery pick the ones that support your claim instead of looking at all of them I can see where you think you get tortured forever. I implore you to objectively reread your selections though because they're incomplete and you're assuming the outcome.
"cast into the eternal fire" - the fire is eternal
"penalty of eternal destruction" - having your soul destroyed is final not forever
"punishment of eternal fire" - the fire is eternal
"destroy both soul and body in hell" - in hell it's destroyed as in not forever (unless you mean nothingness forever, I just never fathomed how to have nothingness)
"black darkness has been reserved forever" - if that doesn't conjure up imagery of nothingness as opposed to lakes of fire I don't know how to help you.
I don't know how to restate on a simple and plain read you're being misguided. I don't fault you, lots of others are as well. This isn't apologetics 101 though this is english 101. I'll gladly discuss it further, but I don't know how can restate the points so that you'll take off your blinders. If I missing something please let me know.
(September 27, 2010 at 12:43 pm)theVOID Wrote:
Do you even read what you're quoting? I'll give you Matthew 25:46 is a little difficult to understand. It's very clearly contrasting the finality of destruction and the promise of ressurection. Whatever the punishment is is eternal but it doesn't specify WHAT that punishment is.But no where does it say what will happen during your punishment(in your quoted scriptures). Yes, your punishment is eternal/forever. When you sentence someone to the death penalty it is a permenant solution. When God sentences someone to go to Hell, where your destruction is clearly stated, and the punishment lasts forever you're confounding the how with the where.
Matthew 10:28
If you chery pick the ones that support your claim instead of looking at all of them I can see where you think you get tortured forever. I implore you to objectively reread your selections though because they're incomplete and you're assuming the outcome.
"cast into the eternal fire" - the fire is eternal
"penalty of eternal destruction" - having your soul destroyed is final not forever
"punishment of eternal fire" - the fire is eternal
"destroy both soul and body in hell" - in hell it's destroyed as in not forever (unless you mean nothingness forever, I just never fathomed how to have nothingness)
"black darkness has been reserved forever" - if that doesn't conjure up imagery of nothingness as opposed to lakes of fire I don't know how to help you.
I don't know how to restate on a simple and plain read you're being misguided. I don't fault you, lots of others are as well. This isn't apologetics 101 though this is english 101. I'll gladly discuss it further, but I don't know how can restate the points so that you'll take off your blinders. If I missing something please let me know.
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