(June 13, 2015 at 7:15 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(June 13, 2015 at 5:38 pm)nicanica123 Wrote: Sure and if someone wanted to be an alcoholic that is their decision right? And they have to suffer the consequences of their actions? I probably shouldn't have compared it to alcoholism in the first place but rather just simply a heterosexual desiring to commit fornication. Like I have been saying to stimbo, it doesn't make sense from an atheist point of view but if you believed in god and believed that there were positive benefits to living by its standards then it would be that individuals prerogative to decide whether or not they viewed their feelings as natural or not. If they felt they were then being a JW wouldn't be a good fit for them. They wouldn't be allowed to get baptized and I don't know why they would anyway
So your still arguing that on homosexuality is a choice? Because we have almost 40 years of psychology saying otherwise. As for fornication being a choice, well I suggest you look at moslovs heirarrchy of the needs http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FhTgHobEouE/TP..._Needs.png
Notice how sex is right next to food. Yeah I suppose eating is a choice too.
Now this perspective won't make sense to a witness but, if your the creator of a universe that 13 billion ly across and filled with wonders we can't imagine, then why the fuck would you give 2 shits about what a bunch of primates do with their peepees? You wouldnt, but if your a bronze age king looking to manipulate then guilt is a great tool, and homosexuals are a great boogie man.
Actually no, JW's do believe that people could be born with the desires. The same I am born with sinful desires. Maybe god would have standards on how his gift of life is used. The difference is that JW's recognize that having a desire doesn't justify it.