RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
June 14, 2015 at 3:37 pm
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2015 at 3:40 pm by Minimalist.)
(June 14, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:Not invented - just stolen.(June 14, 2015 at 1:45 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Bible disproving itself eliminates any need to invoke the ultra-super-duper-mega-plethora of external evidence that disproves it too. Makes it more fun to torment the fucktard christers by staying entirely intramural.
And as bad as the bible is, you would not believe (well, maybe you would) just how much WORSE the Book of Mormon is.
I agree. If one can destroy it from the inside, it works much better than if one is going to try to use something external to disprove it. After all, the religionist can simply deny the truth of whatever external thing is put forth as evidence against it. But with Bible contradictions, they cannot just dismiss one of the claims without rejecting the idea that the Bible is all the word of God and is therefore correct. Of course, they try to "reinterpret" one or the other of the contradictory things to eliminate the contradiction, but that wears thin after a while for those who are not completely brain dead.
I think some of the best sorts of contradictions are the ones that are not explicit, like the fact that Jesus parents are told (before he was born) that Jesus is God's son, and then later on we have things like:
Luke 2:
41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
The thing is, if the earlier story were true, that an angel visited Joseph and Mary and told them about God being the father, with Mary still a virgin, that is not the kind of thing that they could forget even if they wanted to. So when Jesus later on talks about doing his father's business, they would obviously know what that meant, unless that earlier story were a total falsehood.
I have never heard a credible story from any Christian for these sorts of things, and they are the kind of thing that cause doubt for Christians who are not totally brain dead. And it does not rely on believing any source other than what is in the Bible. The stories are just not compatible with each other, so at least one of them must be false.
Quote:I was myself brought up with my brother, whose name was Matthias, for he was my own brother, by both father and mother; and I made mighty proficiency in the improvements of my learning, and appeared to have both a great memory and understanding. Moreover, when I was a child, and about fourteen years of age, I was commended by all for the love I had to learning; on which account the high priests and principal men of the city came then frequently to me together, in order to know my opinion about the accurate understanding of points of the law.http://sacred-texts.com/jud/josephus/autobiog.htm
The Life of Flavius Josephus Chapter 2
Note how Josephus at least makes himself 14 which would be an adult in that culture whereas the jesus shits think they can make their hero do it as a child of 12.